It's amazing that you baptized members of the church of global warming continue to peddle your snake oil while the earth is actually cooling.

Your own "scientists" admit that the hottest known period of the last 200 years was in the 1930's. Your own "scientists" admit that the earth has been cooling since 1997.

I'm not denying that the natural ebbs and flows of the earth temperature may be connected to human activity. However, before you try weather forcasting 50 years out there needs to be some evidence that the globe is warming and not cooling.

You same wackos were falling all over yourselves in the 1970s about human caused global cooling for Hell's sakes. Doesn't give you much credibility does it.

Of course, everyone knows that we need new energy sources in the future to keep our economy growing at the rate of the last century. No one is denying that. As oil prices rise the problem will fix itself as these sources of energy become economically feasible.

It is impossible to understand how legislation resulting in th single largest tax increase in world history is going to solve the alternative energy problem. You got it right that human beings are a lot less concerned about the environment when their economies, livihood, and standards of living are declining.

Go back to the USSR or Venezuela where you came from. In the meantime by Diesel pickup is running

The real problem is stopping the pseudo-science socialists who are drinking the kool-aid of the manmade global warming cult. The UN's IPCC had only 600 genuine active scientists among its 1900 members, the rest being self-serving bureaucrats with a political agenda. Even the scientists were handpicked as being politically correct for the predetermined agenda. Politically correct ''science'' is extremely likely to be political but highly unlikely to be correct.

The current President of the Czech Republic, Vaclav Klaus, hit the nail on the head on the politics of the Global Warming movement in his book ''Blue Planet in Green Shackles'', which was recently released in English after previous Czech, German, and Dutch editions. President Klaus revealed politicized enviromentalism to be a budding totalitarian ideology with strong paralells to the Communism that Klaus grew up under. Klaus describes enviromentalism as the greatest threat to freedom, democracy, and prosperity in the world today.

In the last Italian election, the Green Party appropriately teamed up with the unreconstructed Communist Party in an electoral alliance, and the Italian voters gave that alliance 0 (zero) seats in parliament. Hooray for the Italians!

Our own current high energy prices are caused by the obstructionism of the enviromental elitists, and our consumers cannot afford any more of their agenda.

Science provides us with hard verifiable evidence. Want evidence for evolution? Talk to someone who breeds cats and extrapolate.

Various forms of dating are used to tell how old a rock is - and that rocks are "rule-of-thumb" dated via fossil records is more due to the reliability of those fossils being in that particular era, than that if you took the alternate means of dating those rocks you would suddenly stand science on its head.

Science can provide hard, empirical evidence and/or the math to back itself up. If there is doubt over what era a rock comes from you can use other means of dating that rock to confirm or throw out your dating of that rock.

This is why multiple avenues of proof are encouraged before something makes it into being a theory.

Religion on the other hand relies on "God did it." And as God is "Beyond mortal understanding" we are left without any explanation and we are discouraged from finding any explanation by the concept of heresy - where disagreeing with doctrine is strongly discouraged.

Global Warming as Mass Neurosis

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121486841811817591.html?mod=todays_columnists

July 1, 2008

Last week marked the 20th anniversary of the mass hysteria phenomenon known as global warming. Much of the science has since been discredited. Now it's time for political scientists, theologians and psychiatrists to weigh in.

What, discredited? Thousands of scientists insist otherwise, none more noisily than NASA's Jim Hansen, who first banged the gong with his June 23, 1988, congressional testimony (delivered with all the modesty of "99% confidence").

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The New True Believers

But mother nature has opinions of her own. NASA now begrudgingly confirms that the hottest year on record in the continental 48 was not 1998, as previously believed, but 1934, and that six of the 10 hottest years since 1880 antedate 1954. Data from 3,000 scientific robots in the world's oceans show there has been slight cooling in the past five years, never mind that "80% to 90% of global warming involves heating up ocean waters," according to a report by NPR's Richard Harris.

The Arctic ice cap may be thinning, but the extent of Antarctic sea ice has been expanding for years. At least as of February, last winter was the Northern Hemisphere's coldest in decades. In May, German climate modelers reported in the journal Nature that global warming is due for a decade-long vacation. But be not not-afraid, added the modelers: The inexorable march to apocalypse resumes in 2020.

This last item is, of course, a forecast, not an empirical observation. But it raises a useful question: If even slight global cooling remains evidence of global warming, what isn't evidence of global warming? What we have here is a nonfalsifiable hypothesis, logically indistinguishable from claims for the existence of God. This doesn't mean God doesn't exist, or that global warming isn't happening. It does mean it isn't science.

So let's stop fussing about the interpretation of ice core samples from the South Pole and temperature readings in the troposphere. The real place where discussions of global warming belong is in the realm of belief, and particularly the motives for belief. I see three mutually compatible explanations.

The first is as a vehicle of ideological convenience. Socialism may have failed as an economic theory, but global warming alarmism, with its dire warnings about the consequences of industry and consumerism, is equally a rebuke to capitalism. Take just about any other discredited leftist nostrum of yore – population control, higher taxes, a vast new regulatory regime, global economic redistribution, an enhanced role for the United Nations – and global warming provides a justification. One wonders what the left would make of a scientific "consensus" warning that some looming environmental crisis could only be averted if every college-educated woman bore six children: Thumbs to "patriarchal" science; curtains to the species.

A second explanation is theological. Surely it is no accident that the principal catastrophe predicted by global warming alarmists is diluvian in nature. Surely it is not a coincidence that modern-day environmentalists are awfully biblical in their critique of the depredations of modern society: "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." That's Genesis, but it sounds like Jim Hansen.

And surely it is in keeping with this essentially religious outlook that the "solutions" chiefly offered to global warming involve radical changes to personal behavior, all of them with an ascetic, virtue-centric bent: drive less, buy less, walk lightly upon the earth and so on. A light carbon footprint has become the 21st-century equivalent of sexual abstinence.

Finally, there is a psychological explanation. Listen carefully to the global warming alarmists, and the main theme that emerges is that what the developed world needs is a large dose of penance. What's remarkable is the extent to which penance sells among a mostly secular audience. What is there to be penitent about?

As it turns out, a lot, at least if you're inclined to believe that our successes are undeserved and that prosperity is morally suspect. In this view, global warming is nature's great comeuppance, affirming as nothing else our guilty conscience for our worldly success.

In "The Varieties of Religious Experience," William James distinguishes between healthy, life-affirming religion and the monastically inclined, "morbid-minded" religion of the sick-souled. Global warming is sick-souled religion.