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Monday, June 30, 2008 12:00 AM

Anti-science conservatives must be stopped

Americans must not allow global warming deniers to block the policies needed to avert catastrophic climate change. Our future is at stake.

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Monday, June 30, 2008 12:52 PM

SCIENCE BY INTIMIDATION

THIS MOVEMENT BY EXTREMEST, TO JAIL ANYONE WHO QUESTION THE "FAD", SHOWS THAT TRUE DATA CANNOT BE ALLOWED OR QUESTIONED. SHOWS HOW FAR THEY WANT TO GO TO DISTROY U.S.

(IN FACT, THOUSTANDS OF SCIENCTIST HAVE DESERTED THIS FALSE TREND.)

***IT IS VERY TELLING, THAT THIS "DOWN WITH DISSENT",

MOVEMENT HAS TURNED UGLY AND SCARED OF ANY FACTS TO REVEAL THE FALSEHOOL= TO THIS EXTEME BY TRYING TO SILENCE ANY DISCUSSION BY THREATS TO JAIL THEM AS DISSENTER.

ALREADY KNOWN THAT MAN CANNOT CONTROL THE SOLAR SYSTEM, YET, THE EXTREMIST SEEM TO WANT TO CANCEL ANY DISCUSSION.

THE ESTIMATED COST OF FOLLOWING THE EXTREMIST, AMOUNT

TO TRILLIONS, W/O ANY EVIDENCE THAT AFTER ::::::(RUINING U.S. ECONOMY, SEVERE JOB LOSS, ELIMINATION OF FREEDOMS OF CITIZENS, TOTAL CONTROL OVER EVERYONE'S LIFESTYPE, REDUCING THE ECONOMY TO RUINS, WAS COMPAIRED BY PRESIDENT OF CHEZH (MISSPELLED) IS ALL ABOUT TOTAL CONTROL OF ALL CITIZENS, ELIMINATION OF ALL RIGHTS, INCLUDING FREE SPEECH, WAS MORE SCARY THAN COMMUNISM.)::::::: zero results in climinate.

THIS HYSTERIA MOVEMENT, IS ONLY ABOUT TOTAL CONTROL OF CITIZENS BY GOV'T, WHICH GIVE THE ELITE, TOTAL SAY OVER WHAT YOU CAN HAVE, IF YOU CAN DRIVE, WHEN OR IF YOU CAN USE HEATING & COOLING, FORCING AUTO'S INTO EXTENTION, BARKRUPTING COMPANYS THAT WILL NOT PLAY THEIR GAME. ETC.

THIS EXTREMEST MOVEMENT WOULD TOTALLY DESTROY THE COUNTRY. BIT BY BIT CITIZENS LOSS ALL RIGHTS. HAS BEEN COMPARED TO TOTAL MARXISM.. (BEYOND SOCIALISM) WHERE CITIZENS MUST HAVE PERMITS TO DO ANYTHING. 82 % OF CITIZENS, IN RECENT POLLS) STATE THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS THEORY & TOTALLY AGAINST "INCOME REDISTRIBUTION".

if one reads History, Greenland, was once a farming Country, until the solar system changed. RECENT DATA SHOWS THEY SOLAR SYSTEM IS NOW INTO COOLING.

INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE "REAL" PURPOSE OF THIS HYSTERIAL RESPONSE MOVEMENT !!!!

INDEED, VERY SCARY, MOVEMENT.

Monday, June 30, 2008 12:54 PM

Is taking money to destroy your nation still considered treason?

If so what is the consequence for people taking money, or because of money/taxes, to detroy their country?

Is it still hanging? I know the gop has good lawyers.

But

"do the crime, do the time". I guess their "morals" only apply to non gop fascist cultists. hypocrite gop. Well, at least they only got a few months before facing irrelevance for a generation

Monday, June 30, 2008 01:16 PM

Liberal-Fascist Propagandists Must Be Stopped

Well over 90% of "scientists" work for the government, and their jobs depend on their willingness to spout the liberal-fascist party line. Any "scientist" associated with a college or university is especially suspect, since it is an established fact that no conservatives are allowed to be associated with universities or colleges.

All of the propaganda that has been coming out in the media about human-caused climate change has been generated, not by scientists, but by marxist political operatives under the control of Al Gore and the government.

Until universities are federally de-funded, purged of liberal-fascist apparatchiks, and allowed to return to freedom of thought, especially in their scientific research and scientific publishing, there is no way that any sane person can believe anything that they generate. There is not one shred of unbiased scientific evidence supporting the theory of greenhouse gases, the theory of climate change, the theory of human-caused climate change, or the theory that liberal-fascist mandated regulation will have one scintilla of effect on climate.

The motives of the liberal-fascists are plain - totalitarian control of the world economy, eradication of private property, and population control. The free world hangs in the balance, and the concept of freedom and democracy will depend on our ability to thwart the liberal fascists.

Monday, June 30, 2008 01:20 PM

@traumatic - Are You An Evolution Denier Too? Your Rhetoric Here Suggests As Much

Per the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and other national science academies too:

There is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities. This warming has already led to changes in the Earth's climate... Increasing greenhouse gases are causing temperatures to rise... The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action.
http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf

traumatic: "You paste this a lot."

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

traumatic: "That doesn't change the fact that global climate change is an unstoppable, continuous process"

That's a straw man. It's also deceptive, assuming that you actually read what I wrote in a previous post to you in this thead. Here, I'll repeat what I already told you:

What [climate scientist say] is that cutting down on CO2 emissions will slow the rate of climate change.

traumatic: "This whole thing isn't about science, it's about economics."

Bullshit. I'm talking about the science of global warming.

traumatic: "The damage here is to our infrastructure and NOT the environment."

Whether global warming "damages" the environment is a subjective statement, in part based on what one means here by "damage."

traumatic: "We're basing our everyday lives on a "best guess?" I suppose, right or wrong, we've been doing that for untold centuries."

Exactly. And there's no way around that one. And so to apply a 100% certainty standard with respect to global warming before we should act on it is at turns disingenuous and absurd.

traumatic: "What bearing does a concentration of CO2 in any given area of ice have to do with the present day? Can you expound?"

I don't understand what you are asking here.

traumatic: "These "straw man" arguments are the arguments the PEOPLE and the MEDIA are making."

Climate scientists - most of whom who who also believe that global warming is likely real and in large measure man-made - don't make such alarmist claims. Let's stick to the science, shall we?

traumatic: "Call them straw man arguments all you want but they are the driving force."

As I see it the "driving force" here is the science, and the fact that most climate scientists believe that global warming is real and in large measure man-made.

traumatic: "No one has ever seen any species evolve into any other species."

Wow - are you an evolution-denier too?

traumatic: "No one I know has ever seen a man take a few loaves of bread and a couple of fish and feed a multitude. Yet, we're led to believe in both?"

Maybe you are, but I'm not.

traumatic: "My point is that everything we think we know about the age of fossils, the age of the rock layers they're found in and the age of anything in correlation is founded on circular reasoning... I merely pointed out that we don't really know how old they are and the fact that no one questions this at all."

Wow again. Are you really suggesting that it may be reasonably possible that, say, the earth is only about 10,000 years old, the massive weight of scientific evidence to the contrary notwithstanding?

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