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• Wednesday, July 2, 2008 01:56 PM

  manacker: You Are Either Illiterate Or A Liar

  Or both.

  manacker: "Sun does not influence climate?'

  manracker, are you really so obtuse as to believe that anyone here has suggested such a thing? Nice straw man though.

  manacker: "Sorry publicola, you’re reading the wrong stuff. Forget the alarmist junk science sites like RealClimate and read the many original studies out there, if you really want to know what’s going on.

  Here are some links to help you understand things better.

  Hope this helps."

  It certaintly does - it helps demonstrate that you, manacker, are either illiterate or a liar. Or both.

  manacker: (continuing directly) "Solanki et al (2004)

  http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/nature02995.pdf"

  From that letter to Nature:

  Although the rarity of the current episode of high average sunspot number may be taken as an indication that the Sun has contributed to the unusual degree of climate change during the twentieth century, we stress that solar variability is unlikely to be the prime cause of the strong warming during the last three decades3. In ref. 3, reconstructions of solar total and spectral irradiance as well as of cosmic ray flux were compared with surface temperature records covering approximately 150 years. It was shown that even under the extreme assumption that the Sun was responsible for all the global warming prior to 1970, at the most 30% of the strong warming since then can be of solar origin.

  manacker: (continuing directly) "http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/solanki2004/solanki2004.html"

  From that scientific abstract:

  According to our reconstruction, the level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional, and the previous period of equally high activity occurred more than 8,000 years ago. We find that during the past 11,400 years the Sun spent only of the order of 10% of the time at a similarly high level of magnetic activity and almost all of the earlier high-activity periods were shorter than the present episode. Although the rarity of the current episode of high average sunspot numbers may indicate that the Sun has contributed to the unusual climate change during the twentieth century, we point out that solar variability is unlikely to have been the dominant cause of the strong warming during the past three decades.

  I could go on, but as these two passages demonstrate:

  You, manacker, are either illiterate or a liar. Or both.

  —Publicola Read Publicola's other letters
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