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Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:00 AM

Barack Obama's epic win

The young senator makes history not only in terms of race, while a determined Hillary Clinton delays the inevitable a bit longer.

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Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:44 AM

And oh...

the black dude said that Obama is an affirmative-action candidate too! And He found it insulting that unqualified candidate as Obama is forced upon the people just because he's black.

Right on....what a smart man. He should run for president and I will vote for him lol...

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:50 AM

Indigo

If being black (or at least not entirely white) were such a huge advantage, why is Barrack Obama the first non-white nominated for president?

The notion that he's an "affirmative action" candidate is clearly racist. You are in effect dismissing his talents and accomplishments on the basis of race.

This is even more preposterous coming from supporters of Hillary Clinton, who probably wouldn't have been in a position to run for presidnet at all were it not for her husband.

Only a Republican troll would be sheltered enough to actually claim that Obama's blackness helped him in this primary.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:50 AM

Whatever, KKK Boy

It's their collective white guilt. Had he been chinese, he would have had no chance.

-- indigo218

And if he had been white, with exactly the same experience, the same credentials, the same speeches, the same skeletons in the closet, he would have won the primary in February and would be holding a 25-point lead over McCain in every poll.

So what's your point besides trying to stir up shit?

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:53 AM

Salon's own demons

From Walsh to Shapiro this faulty charge of demonization is a ludicrous crybaby refrain that is overripe and factually wrong. She and Bill weren't demonized; they did it to themselves and got called out on their behavior much less often than they should have been; apologists like Walsh acted as enablers for their awful tactics and words. For examples, imagine the reaction, if:

*Michelle Obama had made comments about Hillary sending people out to slime Barack they way Bill accused Barack of doing?

*Imagine the reaction if Barack had mocked Hillary and her supporters the way she did with the "the skies will open up" speech? She was portrayed as a fighter while he gets slammed by Walsh for having a priest he knows mock her.

*What if the current roles were reversed and the losing candidate (Obama) was DEMANDING this and that while refusing to acknowledge the winning candidate? In fact, Obama would have had to leave the race long ago. But Hillary has been given pass after pass because she is a Clinton and because she is a woman. Sexism didn't hurt her; it enabled her, though her campaign's cynical use of women's fears and experiences, to stay in the race longer than she should have. The Clintons demonized themselves, no matter how much yellow journalists like Shapiro and Walsh want to try lie about the facts.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:56 AM

Man, Indigo.

Your rants are so stupid and baseless, it's hardly worth engaging you.

Just for the record, though, could you answer this: How, exactly, is Obama an Affirmitive Action candidate? How were the principles of Affirmitive Action applied to his winning people's votes? How the hell would that even be possible?

I'll leave you to sulk now.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:56 AM

senorplaid

yeah keep telling me I'm a white man...I am Asian and female, you sexist idiot!!

Instead of debunking our arguments Obamabots keep resorting to ad hominem. Why don't you tell that black dude he's a KKK boy?

Moron is what moron says and thinks....

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:56 AM

FIRST AN ASIAN LADY NOW YOUR A BLACK MAN. HAHAHAH

"I guess this black man is racist too for disliking Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTR0s9_PBN0

Get a grip, people. Have your party now while it lasts because he won't win in Nov, that if he hasn't imploded by August or anytime when his wife's whitey tape is out in the media.

-- indigo218"

PLEASE STOP WASTING TIME. yOU ARE HURTING YORU PARTY GOP. you propgoandists only have power over old people who don't know better. After rush fox hannity and the rest of your fascist propoganidsts for profit are pulled off the air (due to conflict of interest, inciting violence agaisnt americans, or inciting crinimality) your party will be gone for good. Once the evangenicals pull support from the gop and we get seperation of church and state again, what will you do gop? I know your scared and for good reason. But you had your time. You had your chance to do right and fight for the american people. you wasted it forcing moral and social barreiers on america. you wasted your time. you had it but you wasted it.

Now, please stop the sabotage, crawl back in your hole, and accept your irrelevance the next 30 years like a grow-up adult. you nazi's made your beds. to not force you to sleep in it does you do any favors, or the nation.

the gop is done. Stop whining crying and complaining. time for grown-ups to take over now. You had yoru time gop. Now it's over. Don't blame or sabotage growth or yoru country. SAbotuers and traitors will have a consequence in the future. Treason may be en vogue right now. but once the govenrment is restored and the gop cronies who refuse to do their jobs and hold their own to account, the gop will not have a chance again for 30 years. Why? you must cheat to win gop. liek with clinton you can't win the legal way. in the future when you do things the ILLEGAL way their is going to have a conseqeunce. I know now you are gods who answer to nobody or any law. One day you traitors will be within legal ramifications and the street and laws will apply to the right as they do to the left now.

O'reilly can silence and ban others and get them fired. He did it to preists professors judges media tycoons and so on. One day the laws you nazi's apply to others will appy to you also. Whent he laws and rules apply to all equally, we will be free. not until then. Currently only the gop has free speech. the rest of us have to pay for what we do or say. one day the rules we must play by, they will to. that is the day the gop is done. it's fast approuching. Don't fear fordcing the gop to sleep in the beds they made. they will try and make you feel guilty. Don't let them. Remember the last 8 years. if the gop will not hold their own to account for it, somebody will. We have to if america is going to continue in her goal. do not fear holding the gop to the same standard as they hold us. That is the only way to end them and even the palying feild once and for all. Once we got the government back we can get it functioning again. But the gop either has to work FOR america, rather than against it all the time, or toil in irrelevance. No if's and's or but's. And do not feel guilty. they don't. In order to beat the bullies you must beat them on their own playing feilds, by their own rules.

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