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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
GOP troll? LOL. Just read a few pages of my letter history from the beginning. Then make your accusation. You do not know me or anything about me, yet you call me a GOP troll. Yet again -- a typical Obama Supporter.
The end of the primary season arrives tomorrow and not a day too soon as Sen. Clinton drifts further and further off into Cloud-Koo-Koo Land. The low turnout in the Puerto Rico primary is the final nail in the coffin of the Clinton campaign, signalling to super delegates and the rest of us that the primaries are over. Sen. Obama has prevailed, and it is time to get on to the battle against a third Bush term.
The only remaining question is whether Sen. Clinton will offer gracious words of congratulations to her opponant or slink off in silence to sulk at Chappaqua.
As for me, my celebration will take a modest form: I am putting my Obama bumper sticker on my car and sending in another 25 dollars to his campaign tomorrow.
Assuming that you find the "Obama is merely waiting for the presidency to show us his true lefty-fascist colors" conspiracy so entertaining, might I recommend you try the;
"McCain is actually a communist manchurian candidate, brainwashed after 5 years in captivity to hand over the control of the U.S. after he is elected president" conspiracy theory.
Or perhaps you would enjoy the;
"Hillary Clinton is running in order to hand Bill the presidency so he can get around term limits" conspiracy theory.
They're all equally idiotic, but so much fun!
I would be fairly interested to see this chart I presume you must have somewhere which says which middle names are suitable for a potential US president?
Hussein is clearly not acceptable. I assume anything with Mohammed would be right out too? How about Adolf? Eric? Mary-Lou? Is Shawn itself an acceptable option for a POTUS?
But it is reassuring to those of us who care about the big things to see that you at least are keyed in to that all important middle name issue that the main stream media have been mostly ignoring. Kudos to you.
… I thought I was the only one who didn’t understand how Obama could be labelled “far left”. Living in Canada, we have a very different idea of what constitutes “left wing” politics - and Clinton/Obama certainly don’t qualify. If some of you think Obama’s a dirty red commi, I can’t imagine what you thought of Edwards… a mustachioed Stalinist, no doubt.
GOP troll? LOL. Just read a few pages of my letter history from the beginning. Then make your accusation. You do not know me or anything about me, yet you call me a GOP troll. Yet again -- a typical Obama Supporter.
-- red_gti2000
OK, I got through a few pages (it was all I could take), and while I would concede you're not as prolific as Shawnie and the other paid-for ops, the tone of 95 percent of the posts I read were to bash either Obama or his supporters, often profanely. It certainly wasn't to defend Clinton and her policies, leading me to conclude that there was -- and is -- an ulterior agenda involved.
So, not troll, as an honest-to-goodness Dem, can you answer my question regarding why Clinton doesn't have to win the votes of Obama supporters in November to be elected?
"So, not troll, as an honest-to-goodness Dem, can you answer my question regarding why Clinton doesn't have to win the votes of Obama supporters in November to be elected?"
I never said that she doesn't have to win their votes. She should try to. But if they don't want to back her there's nothing she can do about it. Such is life. Such is politics. She should still win without them.
And my bashing of Obama supporters has always been in response to their bashing. And the profanity is tit-for-tat.
Not defend Clinton and her policies? Pfft. The Clintons should have been defended by 100% of the true Democrats. But the rats abandoned ship as soon as they saw it was politically expendient. The Clinton's progressive policies have been on display for decades -- and they took immense personal damage from the Republicans for it. They took it for the Democratic Party. You cannot deny that. Therefore I support them. You go ahead and be just another rat. Go ahead and vote Obama. He deserves you.
The Clinton's progressive policies have been on display for decades -- and they took immense personal damage from the Republicans for it. They took it for the Democratic Party. You cannot deny that.
Do you mind recounting the progressive policies? The policies that stick in my mind are NAFTA, welfare reform, China MFN, deficit reduction and a strong dollar. The last two are just good government, but the democrats yielded them to the republicans for years up until Bush 43. But the first 3 issues are more triangulation than progressism.
Is America aware that Hillary's popular vote count EXCLUDES all the caucus states? Hillary is truly living in another reality.
Reality is that Obama has won the popular vote, has won the majority of pledged delegates, and has the support of more super delegates and only needs 44 more total delegates for the nomination. As she says, "America has spoken" trouble is, Hillary isnt listening.
Didn't Madden recently and confidently predict Hillary would lose PR to Obama based on low voter turnout? The turnout *was* low, but that's about all he had right given her across-the-board win. It would be nice if journalists had to face and answer to their mistakes every once in a while--how about an "Iron Chef" running tally on good and bad predictions that must be posted next to their name. This just might stop the desire to write anything just to see one's name in print...
But the rats abandoned ship as soon as they saw it was politically expendient. The Clinton's progressive policies have been on display for decades -- and they took immense personal damage from the Republicans for it. They took it for the Democratic Party. You cannot deny that. Therefore I support them. You go ahead and be just another rat. Go ahead and vote Obama. He deserves you.
-- red_gti2000
Rats don't leave a ship unless it's sinking, but let's leave aside that ironic choice of words.
As for the Clintons' progressive policies, although one could argue that Bill's Don't-Ask-Don't Tell policy shortly after taking office sunk a so-called progressive agenda shortly after taking office, they disappeared after 1994 when Hillary's health-care plan fell apart and the GOP routed the Dems in the congressionals. After that, Bill took a hard tack to the right out of political expediency, (not saying it was wrong, just saying). It was at this time that we got welfare reform, the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and the Telecommunications Act of 1996 that has resulted in a total takeover in the MSM by corporate interests. Defend those policies all you like, but they're hardly the byproducts of a progressive. (Hillary's vote on Kyl-Lieberman was the final straw for me. No progressive, period, votes to give Bush a second chance to wage a bad war, after first voting to give him a bad war in 2002.)
As for the abuse the Clintons took, I agree, but some of it wasn't so much for their policies per se as for their prevarications, their apparent lack of integrity. It is with this abuse in mind, that it seemed to me another Clinton could not sell a Dem agenda in a bitterly divided landscape. It became clear to this rat at least that we needed to look elsewhere for someone who could.
We've seen what Dem compromise of their ideals means. (See above examples and the Iraq war, tax cuts for the rich, the Patriot Act, etc., among other recent debacles.) Obama seems to be the right guy. Maybe I'm wrong, but that doesn't mean Hillary's problems suddenly disappear.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
Salon headlines in your mailbox
