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he'll do just fine, as well. I expect him to be our next president.
Right. I suppose there's no Puerto Ricans in NY or NJ or Florida.
Obama's fate with hispanics was sealed long ago. He won less than 45% of their vote in Illinois for Godsakes and less than 22% in California. A kiss of death for anyone with a brain - which would exclude of course the radical fringe left whose idea of a campaign is to find the most unelectable candidate possible.
I thought the DNC understood that the historic growth and hispanic momentum shouldn't be slapped in the face and discarded. By that alone they destined themselves an obsolete party.
Never saying his name was Hussein-Obama or talking about his Iranian businesss buddies in lefty political correctness was surely going to fly in a General Election.
You people are as dumb as your are grotesque.
So what's your plan for Barrack now, just blame his big loss on somebody else right?
Clearly you have none. Pathetic fools.
And in the general election against McCain,
he'll do just fine, as well. I expect him to be our next president.
Then go on out and make it happen, dewd You got some plan right besides hanging out on the internet spouting off profanity and calling everyone a racist, right? Right?
Annie wrote @AnaHadWolves If you were just offended by McGregor's insult, fine, that's your call. If you think you need to defend ShawnM, maybe you should have read some very disgusting posts of his that were yanked to understand some of the vitriol flung his way. He's not worth defending.-- AnnieW"
AnnieW, while I may disagree occasionally with the content of a writer's post, I defend absolutely his or her right to post that political commentary. How boring would it be if only a single viewpoint were allowed?
Try to remember that these are just opinions that you or I may or may not share; Salon has provided for a broad viewpoint to be shared. For that, we should all be grateful.
In America, politics are geographically oriented. You cannot use labels like "ALL" when drawing comparisons among voting blocks unless they are in this context.
P.R. was a blow to Obama, but no one can say that their interests and voting habits suggest what Mexicans in CA, PR's in Philly, or Cubans in FL, or Dominicans in NYC will do. This is not - as GOP people on this board seem to think - a monolithic block that all vote the same way. These groups differ greatly on many issues.
Obama has challenges with Hispanics to be sure - but in the case of Puerto Rico you have a population that largely does not follow US politics. They get 90% turnout for local elections and pitiful turnout for national. Break the code. Hillary did very well because of the time and effort she put in, and the brand recognition she has. And anyone who has been to Puerto Rico since 1600 AD could tell you that there is some racial uneasiness there on the part of its residents.
So too, all this nonsense about "Catholics". That a Kentucky or West Virginia Catholic indicates how he'll do with Boston Catholics. Or with East L.A. Mexican Catholics. That is silly.
Any analysis or statement that ignores geography as the primary point - one that deals with economics, culture, industry, etc. - misses the point. So Obama struggles in the South and square states that always go for the GOP. Is that a shocker? McCain would beat Hillary in these same states.
Because its all about regional politics and infrastructure.
And stop the "who is meaner" argument. It is childish and boring.
There have been a couple references in this letters thread to some posts by ShawnWM that were deleted. Also, this past weekend, I read about other posts (one was by a "JohnCP", I think?) being deleted. By the time I read through the letters threads, apparently these posts had already been deleted, so I did not get to read them. Also, it seems that most of these specific posts were particulary negative towards Obama and perhaps even contained specifically racist comments.
Did anyone read these posts? JasonF provided one by ShawnWM earlier in this thread. What did these posts say? How often does Salon delete letters? Has Salon deleted posts that are negative about Clinton?
If there is a particularly negative or vile post, then I can understand why Salon would want to delete it. However, I can't help but think of these deleted posts in the larger contact of the pro-Clinton tilt on Salon. It's a common complaint by Joan Walsh and many Clinton-supporting posters that many/most of the Obama-supporting posters are mean and negative towards Clinton. Others (including myself) have repeatedly challenged Ms. Walsh et al. to acknowledge some of the equally offensive posts about Obama. I would hate to think that there is a preferential pattern to which posts are deleted.
Who knows, maybe there are a lot of vile anti-Clinton posts that have also been deleted. But I don't remember seeing so many specific references to those types of posts being deleted. Anyone else notice this?
Nobody needs lectures on what a "real" Democrat would do from illiterate, (truly) racist trash that wanted to disenfranchise 18.5 million Democratic voters before the primary was even half over.
Senator Clinton is wise to fight until the very end.
"Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan Take On Whitey" by Larry Johnson over at No Quarter describes a tape of Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan sitting in a panel at Trinity United. It is supposed to be "stunning."
While the folks here at Salon may be able to forgive something like this...
The only question is when will this tape be released?
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/#more-2847
Perception is everything - I think Salon has a pro-Obama bias. You think it has a pro-Clinton bias. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle - some writers favor one candidate or the other and it bleeds through even when they are trying to be objective.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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