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Monday, June 2, 2008 12:00 AM

Viva Hillary Clinton!

Although she won Puerto Rico easily, Clinton seemed to be campaigning in an alternate reality, as hopes for the nomination slipped away.

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  • Monday, June 2, 2008 09:17 AM

    Don't Let Facts Sway You

    Typical Obama supporter -- projecting his hopes and aspirations on this "blank slate" of a candidate.

    -- red_gti2000

    That's not what I said, but then I'm not sure you read what I said anyway. What I said was that would be great if Obama turned out to be a progressive (playing off of your post about Obama being hopelessly left-wing) but that I didn't think that he was. I never used the word hope.

    But then based on the rest of your response, I would surmise that your real point in calling me out was to once again beat Eight Belles about Obama as a communist. (That's a good one -- there is no such thing in American politics any more, Bill Clinton saw to that when he shoved the Dems to the right after 1994.) I have to admit, I hadn't caught on to the fact that you're a GOP troll like Shawnie and a few others, but your response, Red, was a total giveaway.

    To actual Clinton supporters and not op trolls, why is it somehow agreed upon that Obama has "to win" Clinton supporters, but not the other way around? Look, if the Clinton argument is the only way the Dems will win in November is if Clinton is the nominee, because half the party won't vote for Obama, why is it just assumed that the other half will automatically vote for Clinton? Is everyone saying that we're smarter or more selfless, so we won't let personal animosity get in the way of doing the right thing? Or do you just think we're more spineless, that if you say something loudly and frequently enough, we'll just give in and do it? Why wouldn't Hillary have "to win" Obama supporters?

    I can't speak for "typical Obama supporters," because I don't think there is such a thing. (I know a lot of Obama supporters, and I suppose the only unified thing I can come up with is each one is fairly smart, in tune with what's going on in the world and want to make it a better place -- which of course is code for elitist.) That said, what I can say is that hard-right style bullying won't work any more. We've had that for eight years under Shrub. No more. Not from Hillary. And certainly not from online GOP ops.

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