Letters to the Editor
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Hillary wins — does anybody care?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10332.html
Left standing at the alter.
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Clinton isn't running for 2012
Clinton is sixty. She can probably get reelected as Senator if she doesn't tick off too many more Dems, but she's lost this race.
She has been sabotaging Obama. The Wright eruption, the Ayers story, all of that can be tracked by to Clinton's oppo research ready to go since last December (read Parry's article at ConsortiumNews). Her fluffing of McCain and slandering of Obama is something so disgusting for a Democratic candidate to do, I cannot think of anything equivalent to it in my lifetime.
So if Clinton has lost this year and her chance of being President is over, qui bono? Clearly, Clinton is acting on behalf of those same people who gave the Clintons the vast majority of those 109 million dollars. Ultimately Clinton is not a feminist or even a Democrat. She's a corporatist, has been when she was selling all those trade agreements, was a corporatist as a lawyer for Walmart.
You get what you pay for.
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LT Bohica
There are lots of feminists who voted for Obama. Obama is more a feminist than the macho Clinton who is going to obliterate Iran. Obama will not let you down. Trust him.
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Sorry 08YesWeCan...
...but I do not cotton to your shallow use of the descriptors macho and feminist in your reply to me. I have seen your postings in other message threads and have found them insulting and illogical. So don't waste your time attempting to convert me.
Senator Obama has not stood up once to the blatant misogyny of the press this primary and that has had a huge impact with me and my female colleagues/family. All he needed to do was acknowledge it existed and deplore it. If he had, I would have a much more positive view of his support for women. But he has remained silent. Deliberately so and that is not lost on the women who support Senator Clinton.
Further, when a man's wife says he does not pick up his dirty socks, he has pretty much lost all feminist street cred with me. Division of household labor is a huge indicator.
When will the importance of the female vote be acknowledged? How dare we be taken for granted?
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How dare you
How dare you act as if you speak for all women. How dare you act ss if Roe v. Wade is something to be tossed away if your candidate doesn't get selected through the due process of primaries? How can you be that petty? Please do not pretend to speak for women at large, because you do not, and what you are trumpeting is not anything that resembles feminism. It's immature sour grapes.
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Plenty of Animosity to go around
It seems that there is no opportunity that is not taken to cast more animosity upon Hillary. There is such a thing as being a gracious winner. Obama supporters who can not stop themselves from getting in one more shot against Hillary are fooling themselves if they think they are not damaging the Democratic and Obama's chances in November. There are voters who believe in Hillary just as strongly as do those who support Obama. Just keep up rubbing their nose in the lose with disparaging comments about her and you should be able to alienate them completely. If your so sure you have won and Obama is so fantastic why keep up the negative posts about Hillary? The venom will come back to bite you and your candidate, or don't you "get it" we are now in the era of a new politics of hope and change with Obama. Politics is now nice and civil and on a higher plane than the bad old days of the Clintons.
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@Bohica
Yes, the frigging media (including online blogs) just don't get it, do they? In spite of their best efforts to bury Hillary Clinton, millions of voters continue to not just like Hillary, but increasingly, love her - a development which you can bet the media will never, ever cover. This isn't idol worship, instead it's deep affection and regard for a candidate who voters sense cares about them. Like you, my contributions to Hillary tend to be in direct proportion to my anger at the media. And tonight was no exception.
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Vote for me, Hillary
...or DIE! MUAHAHAHAH! I WILL BE SUPREME!
Wait. I meant, vote for me or lose the general election.
And 7% for Edwards? Wtf?
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Has anyone else noticed
that all the old Obama players on this site are not so apparent? Where's Tom Payne for example? Which of those old assholes has orphed into "08YesWeCan"? I have to admit I see it on the pro-Hillary side as well - It seems to me that this whole site is populated by just few people who a) have lots of free time b) are very opinionated c) love to fight. Then there's that dimwit Manos 99 with his "poems"...I hate to make fun of the disabled though.
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formerSalonsubscriber
I am entitled to express my opinion and have not once claimed to speak for all women. Read what I wrote again and think about it for more than five seconds.
Your name calling reaction in part proves my point about how women are being dismissed.
Senator Clinton has won the majority of the votes cast by women in this primary and it is just assumed that those of us who vote for her will come around this fall. Conversely, African Americans are being called on to riot at the convention if Obama is not the nominee while the millions of women who voted for Clinton are just going to fall in and toe the line according to the pundits.
I have seen your postings in other threads as well and have also found you to be pretty ignorant and one sided.
Sadly, with the restrictions in many states and the lack of providers, surgical abortion is practically out of reach for many women these days anyway. Although I doubt it would happen as too much case law depends on the precedent, the repeal of Roe v Wade would send the controversy back to the states.
Let's assume it happens. California, NY, etc would keep it legal and hopefully the women in states that made it illegal would wise up and change the law. Perhaps we women have become too complacent. The blatant misogyny this race has exposed indicates we need to wake up. Perhaps a battle over abortion would be healthy for my generation that seems to take the gains the women of the 60s and 70s fought so hard for for granted.
Ultimately, I refuse to have my vote taken for granted and I will not be brow beaten into supporting someone due to vague threats to a right that most women don't have access to now anyway.