Letters to the Editor
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In this case, refusal to quit is not a good thing
What if Hillary convinces eighty percent of the unpledged delegates that she is more electable than Obama? In this case, "electable" means, by her own definition, that only she can appeal to white, blue collar workers that will be instrumental in swinging some states toward the Democrats in the fall. She wins overwhelmingly among this generally uneducated, rural and older demographic in spite of the similarity between Obama's platform and hers, and this is best explained by the fact that racial attitudes are particularly resilient among this group. Yes, I'm accusing them of carrying a deep-seeded aversion to the idea of a black president. Call it what you like!
Her current line of argument is that the undecided delegates should disregard Obama's lead in won delegates and the popular vote on the unprincipled basis that we can't transcend stubborn racism (okay, I said it), so we may as well do the best we can with it. She would win the nomination knowing that her victory hinged on the support of that all-important backwater of the electorate that refuses to join the rest of us in the twenty-first century. This argument is the only one left for her to make, and she's making it. This is going to be our nominee? This is a Democrat? Think, for a moment, how contrary this is to Democratic Party ideals. Consider the opposite, more principled stance: if the only group pushing me over the top are people whose attitudes are repugnant, I'm out!
I don't intend to antagonize people who support HRC. I know very, very few Clintonites are racist. But those marginal few, Hillary would have us believe, are going to be decisive and should not be ignored. If you don't think such an unbelievable espousal is hurting our party, if you don't think this line of argument is a perversion, we're in a lot more trouble than I knew.
Mark W
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My theory
I am in blood Stepped in so far that, should I wade no more, returning were as tedious as go o'er.
MacBeth.
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It says in the Bible..
"that faith in god can move mountains and I have been moved by the mountain state..."
Way to pander there hil..
Also depends on whose book you happen to subscribe to at the time...
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100 points?
I suppose you mean that in each state Barak Obama may lose the primary by a percentage of votes, which when the gross percentage totals are added together might add to to 100.
I'm sure by now, between all 32 contests Senator Clinton has lost, she has lost by "100 points" as you put it.
Really, Senator Clinton supporters, don't use Math, it's not your strong suit (or Senator Clintons). You can keep on pushing the idea of electability, but you're going to have to show how a collation of one group (older working class whites who traditionally vote Republican) is a base that can be grown to win this election.
This election will be determined by an energized on the ground electorate coordinated and moved to the polls by a charismatic leader and his machine.
Since Senator Clinton has spent the last few months informing this energized electorate that their votes don't matter, how does Senator Clinton's coallition of the one group who still likes her win in November?
Democrats will still vote, but without the ground game (which Obama has and Clinton does not) the party will lose at the top and down ticket.
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I Think The Primary Frustration Of Obama Is Elitism
These less educated dummies just won't cheer and faint at the hope and change routine.
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PS to Christopher1988 re:Swing States
Agreed! Those primary results tell us nothing. In fact, to reverse my sports analogizing, that crap about every Democrat since 1916 having won West Virginia en route to the White House means nothing either. This is the very sort of irrational trust in linear, statistical, ramrod thinking that really separates Clinton and Obama and makes Obama my candidate of choice (and, in my mind, the only choice). All other failings aside, the insistence on reading the tea leaves of the past sounds like John Madden babbling in the background about who was on what yard line in what games how many times and how this somehow constitutes a rule of metaphysics when it's really just stuff that happened.
Those who remember history too well are doomed to fall in love with it, and that's why nothing ever changes. Living in the past just produces a real-life "Groundhog Day." I'm ready for us all to wake up.
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@Taliesan
Amen! I really, really believe that says it all.
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Clearly going to convention
Besides Hillary not knowing how to be graceful, her 2 advisers "Son of Wolf", and Terry "McAwful" are giving her bad advise.
If these two advisers in any way represent the kind of people Hillary would surround herself with in the White House, I really have no confidence in her presidency. It's these kind of people who are trying to hold on to power in the Democratic party. Time to purge!
Last night there was much speculation from the pundits that Hillary was going to give a unifying speech. It was the opposite, She dug her feet in for a convention fight, and refuses to use the official DNC delegate count of 2025. She and her advisers prefers their NEW Math. Wolfsons argument for MI & Fl was a sorry argument. When Anderson Cooper reminded him of Hillary's statement in NH, that MI would not count the replied, OH but all those voters came out to vote.
How come no one is mentioning, WV, the one state Obama did not spend much time in had a lower voter turn out. In all the states where Obama has won or has been close, voter turn out was the highest ever for Democrats. Even thought Obama lost in WV he still got more popular votes than John McCain.
I went to the CNN slider delegate counter this AM. I gave 60+% wins for Hillary in KT, PR and lowered my expectations for Obama to 56% wins in OR, MT & SD. With this count and 50/50 spit in super delegate remaining it would put Obama way over 2025 total delegates needed. Hillary would need more than 75% of the remaining Super delegates under this formula to even put Hillary at 2025. She would have to win all the remaining states and get 75% of all the remaining super delegates to even get to her NEW math number.
AS an Obama supporter. I hope he will go back to KT and campaign like he did in IN. I would like to see similar results for OR/KT as he had for NC/IN. We need to shut up Hillary.