Letters to the Editor
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McCain over Obama?
Interesting, isn't it, that so many Clinton supporters who like McCain cite his rep as a "straight shooter" as a source of their admiration?
McCain is telling us exactly what kind of presidency he'd deliver: more of Bush's economic policies, no deviation on the war in Iraq, a war with Iran if he can gin up a pretext, more people like Scalia on the Supreme Court.
So why are these Dems planning to vote GOP in the fall?
Because they believe straight-shooting John McCain is lying about what he really plans to do.
Go figure.
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LOL, Pesky! It's a fine logical pretzel, all right...
So why are these Dems planning to vote GOP in the fall?
Because they believe straight-shooting John McCain is lying about what he really plans to do.
Go figure.
-- Pesky details
McCain will get more Americans killed needlessly. Is there there still a lustrous kernel of idealism somewhere in this GOP puppet? Perhaps, but it's a damned dangerous bet with little apparent upside.
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Not all roses for Barack Obama now, however
My friend brought up a interesting point: the more important way of looking at this though is that Obama hasn't WON. Not in the overwhelming way that we want the Democratic nominee to, to carry our hopes of a victory in the fall. That's the ugly truth of this primary battle.
The real story here -- the one everyone's missing cause all they can talk about is what will Hillary do -- is what does it mean that Obama hasn't been able to take hold of this party. Are people suggesting that the only way Obama could have taken hold of the party is if no one (Hillary) was running against him in the primary? That doesn't sound like a win in November to me.
No, I think that what this race has proven -- and quiet your whining and calls for the race to end, media; what else would you be doing if not covering this anyway? -- is that neither candidate is very compelling on his/her own. In order to win in the fall they both need each other. That's the way to victory.
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billcap watch the numbers race by race though and read the article on Salon if you don't believe me
Even keeping Obama's support down to 80-20--which could have happened I argue, would have made a huge difference in this contest...had Clinton really tried to reach out.
Also, Obama didn't start getting 90% support until after South Carolina. Look at the numbers in relation to some of the Clintons actions as ask why they actually have seemed to impact the percentages by at least ten percent (he did not have 90% AA support in South Carolina)...a critical number...if Hillary Clinton could have kept this ten percent instead of giving it away.
Also, I notice that you don't say anything about precisely same number (90%) block support for Bill Clinton during his impeachment and he WAS white.... (?)
So I'm seriously not trying to insult you because you seem like 92% getting it...=), but I don't see why, theoretically, black people can't vote together without it being race based?
Or white people couldn't either, for that matter, theoretically?...
You are considering at least some numbers, but not others. Sych as the fact that African American support for Kerry and Al Gore were in the 80% plus range so I still think that if you add 10% for "racial insensitivity punishment" which arguably the Clintons have been committing, the numbers are actually consistent with the African American support of white candidates. I'm no mathmatician, but that's what the numbers say quite clearly to me.
Also, I can't help but ask...you don't think that her actions (or say Ferraro's or Bob Kerrey's or Bill's or her comments about MLK and LBJ or her speech about Obama not passing a threshold for commander in chief or Bill later saying that Obama played the race card on him...) played ANY part at all in this election? Not even a ten percent role?
Hmmmm....
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I meant to say this article
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/05/05/clinton_blackvote/
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@Dubmanny
"No, I think that what this race has proven... is that neither candidate is very compelling on his/her own."
I think it's quite the opposite. Both are strong candidates, and both are quite unique. We had the first woman and first African American to run for President. That's huge, and that's powerful.
Further, a record turnout refutes your point decisively.
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I will not vote for Clinton. Ever.
Her campaign is a shameless sham that will throw anyone under the bus in order to win, including the frontrunner, Obama.
Wolfson was just on CNN and he sounded nuts. I am so tired of the "he's not electable" refrain. No, he will not be if you tear him to shreds. And the party will lose in the general election. She needs to handle her end game carefully.
I am no political neophyte, but I am always heartbroken and shocked by how poorly my party, on the local, state, and national level, handles its business.
I will keep watching and waiting.
It will become time to use the old vaudeville maneuver and produce a cane to pull her off the stage.
The party has gotten this stuff wrong too frequently, and they need to get it right, for once in a very, very long time.
Stop alowing the Clintons, Ed Rendell and similar folks to hold the party hostage...Stop, or you will ...lose.
So old school,and the other party gets the game and has deciphered the code book.
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Demographics
No one ever surveyed the internet troll vote. So I'm about to do it; let's hear from you, trolls; who are you for? I'm guessing Ron Paul or Lyndon Larouche.
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Obama's VP
Has anyone suggested Chuck Hagel? Not only could he be the proof that Obama will work across the aisle and for America, CH would undercut McCain's "maverick" BS rep and he brings strong foreign policy experience.
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The woman is mad, no rational thought shall ever tempt to please her
I tell you my fellow countrymen, she's a pantsuited wannabe Caeser!
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Enough he has won
Say what you will about Obama supporters they are a blood thirsty lot. Despite having the nomination in their hands they still keep kicking Hillary and her supporters when she's down. Better they save their strength for a far more formidible foe, the GOP attack machine. As for Senator Clinton you've been the most famous and the most hated woman in the US for the last 16 years and its time to give the title to someone else. Like Mrs. Obama or Mrs. McCain. Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.