Letters to the Editor
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To Maureen Powell
To Maureen Powell who said Obama is the worst thing that happened to Democratic party:
So you saying millions of citizens who contributed and still are contributing to him are fools?
Or should obama like Clinton get the money from RIAA, MPAA, Exxon, Blue Cross, etc.?
McCain is a senile old fool who can't even remember his own name at times.
And at 3 AM he would be too far asleep to take the phone call.
Hillary is a republican in disguise who did not know the affair her husband was having right under her very nose. And she claims she knows everything...
Obama may not have experience, but hillary's experience isn't so great either.
And JF Kennedy too did not have much experience.
Dewey had lotsa experience, the press adored him and one even printed the famous headline: Dewey Defeats Truman.
Fact is Obama represents small people like you and me.
Which rankles the corporates a lot.
And which explains your posting.
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What Bill Clinton should have said...
"Watch that black vote, if my wife ever steals this nomination, that's what's going to lose it for us in November."
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The end of the Democratic party as we know it
I am not sure whether it is good or bad. That Obama and Clinton are two candidates that simply baffles me.
I will say this, it is a matter of judgement concerning the reverend and Obama's former position concerning Wright's status in his spiritual and intellectual life. Clearly 20 years of bad judgement and anti-Americanism of Wright convinces me that Obama has to go.
He'd never have distanced himself except Wright smelled the blood of notoriety and made the decision to be the new name in the news. Obama is not god for us.
My feeling is that anyone, super delegate or not, who supports Obama is afraid not to, fearing the cry of racism. I hope he goes away. We are ready for a Black President, but this isn't the man or woman for the job.
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How easily you forget
For a bunch of Democrats you people really do have a hard time seeing how this whole Wright affair has been manufactured by what your candidate called "a vast right wing conspiracy." In fact, Clinton met with and accepted an endorsement from the very man she was referring to when she coined that phrase--Richard Mellon Scaife. Hmmm...I wonder if there is a connection here??
These are the same people that swift-boated Kerry and cast Al Gore as a wooden, know-it-all robot. They have started a whisper campaign of viral emails and robo-calls to Americans everywhere during these primaries implying that Obama is a secret Muslim, an anti-Semite, and using his middle name as an epithet. Proudtekhasscumbag and Anahadhooves and some other posters here are mouthing the same insults. Don't kid yourselves folks. Just because it's not politically incorrect yet, doesn't make you any less of a bigot hating on Muslims. It's the same thing white supremacists did in the 50s and 60s before it was politically incorrect to hate on blacks. You have bought wholesale the Bush bullshit of the past 8 years if you really think Islam or Muslims are the enemy of the US.
Besides, its a pathetic gambit on Salon because most Salon readers are at least literate if not better than that. The Wright affair may have breathed some life into Hillary Clinton's campaign but it won't last long. It is mathematically impossible for Clinton to win the nomination unless the super delegates overturn the will of the Democratic electorate, which they won't do. But then again, you girls did always have trouble with math ;-).
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miriald and LnGrrr
1. The people you are talking to and about are trolls.
2. The trolls you are talking to and about are Republicans and/or libertarians and/or amoral spambots - not Democrats. They do not post in good faith; they post to get a rise out of you and then laugh at you when it works. Some of them accept money for performing this service.
3. When you talk to trolls, you satisfy their kinky needs, help write their paycheck and legitimate their positions within the Salon community.
4. None of the things listed in (3) are desirable.
I know it is really hard, but you need to stop helping them. If you are like me, in order to do this, you will need to stop reading their posts, or the urge to answer will become irresistible.
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@ miriald
Well said.
If Obama becomes the nominee, how will all of you Hillary-supporting Democrats who are talking trash be able to enthusiastically support him?
How, in fact, will Bill and Hillary Clinton be able to support him after their negative campaign?
And, if Hillary weren't running, don't you think both Bill and Hillary Clinton would be Obama's biggest supporters? I certainly do.
This brings into sharper relief how the Clinton campaign's "kitchen sink" strategy, and the same strategy carried out here in Salon's letters, hurts the party, and hurts Obama should he become the nominee.
That self-centered strategy has brought into sharper relief where resentment of Bill and HIllary Clinton comes from. There is no doubt that they are both smart, but there is also no doubt that neither is wise because in the long term they've both weakened if not destroyed the Democratic party.
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Bull
A good chunk of the Obama flock has been talking about Hillary worse than the right wing ever has.....The holier than thou aspect of the Obama people gets real old.
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"How, in fact, will Bill and Hillary Clinton be able to support him after their negative campaign?"
They'll support him by trying for an independant bid for the White House. Once Clinton is officially out I have a feeling they will begin approaching their most loyal doners in earnest to see if there's any support.
As far as the super delegats go, I think they're waiting until the primaries are completed on June 3. There is already a visible shift of SD's to Obama. If there was a big wave that sealed the nomination for him now the clinton campaign would be out there relentlessly claiming the system was gamed, voters were disenfranchised by the SD's. Waiting until June 3rd, minimizes the damage the clintons can do (as though they haven't done enough). She will be behind in states won, pledged delegates and the popular vote at the end of the primaries. She won't have an arguement left,
Right after the last primary this will end. that's my prediction.