Letters to the Editor
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One cure for that
Give the news to Hillary, and all her friends.
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Will the pundits flop?
So far they've been doing a good job.
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Convention
Would you stop with the doomsday scenarios of how bad it will be to decide at the convention. So what if chaos reins and the hug fests of the past are a distant memory? What better way to provide a free civics lesson to all? The worst that can happen is that the party completely destroys itself and we suffer four more years of Bush. At least there would then be the off chance that the party would actually re-build according to the tenets of the real Democratic party of the people.
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Convention: Democracy or Chaos?
Unfortunately the modern political convention is little more than an extended commercial for the parties and their candidates. With no real decision making, there is little incentive for anyone to tune in. Accordingly, the networks have dramatically cut their coverage.
A well-run Democratic convention, deciding between Obama and Hillary, might reverse the tide of viewer apathy and be a big plus for the Democrats -- particularly when you consider that the GOP convention is going to be a monumental snoozer. On the other hand, if the Democratic Convention degenerates into acrimony and chaos, voters may just decide that a party that can't run its convention shouldn't run the country.
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flop sweat
without proper undergarments..... oh, different flopping. Yes, a televised pissathon would almost guarantee that Warmonger McJowl- who could not win any other way- would have a clear shot at another four years of what we've got now. Two or three more hale and hearty fascist to stack the Krispy Kreme Kourt for at least two decades of anti civil/women/worker/environmental rights. Four more years of two deaths a day in eye-rack. And we are not counting perhaps the most alarming of all the war related stats: over 120 Iraq and Afghan vets commit suicide every week- well over six thousand more deaths from George's Personal War (enabled by Clinton, supported to the hilt by McLame) for four more years. Along with the deaths "in country", we'll be talking about numbers that rival Vietnam, and nearly 20 times what we lost on 9/11. Enough. The DNC needs to convene whatever empty headed fools are still undecided after June 3, the last primary, and lock the damned door until they declare, one way or another. We cannot afford public blood letting in August. My God, the country is literally at stake. Close ranks.
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How does it get to Denver Mike?
Beyond a media impulse to take it that far? Won't Obama win on delegates? Won't we have dozens of backs-and-forth here on salonforhillary.com about framing Clinton's various vote scenarios that remind everyone with young children of playing Monopoly with a seven year old?
Which adjective fits Salon's fevered Hillary positioning - mindless, vainglorious, self-indulgent or nihilistic?
And somewhere between 3 to 7 days from now Joan Walsh will weigh in with another post that will set in concrete her phony still-trying-to-work-through-the-issues bullshit for which she has earned what? And Joan's response won't tell if she thinks Hillary's positioning is - mindless, vainglorious, self-indulgent or nihilistic.
I think it is all those and a bag of chips.
The Pennsylvania results today changed one thing - Clinton supporters are dreaming and have their head in clouds.
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Nice.
In a perfect world, joemartin64's last post would get a star.
Here, alas, not going to happen.
Either way, this thing is either over May 6 or June 3. Articles like this, and Shapiro's earlier today, are frankly imbecilic.
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How will Salon flop today?
Argh!
It's like Salon found it a challenge to find a way to goad us who vowed to give up into ranting again.
Stop it. Really. Cut it out.
"Democratic Voters: Will They Spontaneously Combust or Just Become Crazed Killing Machines Which Must Be Wiped From The Earth?"
Salon has gone beyond self-parody into a form of stupidity which is almost the perfect opposite of Zen.
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To be fair.
Softdog's post deserves a star too. Y'all are on fire tonight.
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Haven't we heard enough pessimistic commentary?
Can't all kinds of political writers finally relax with their sad predictions about how the ongoing Obama/Hillary battle will pave the road for McCain? Picking a democratic nominee is a valid part of the political process, so what is there to whine about? Besides, if McCain stands even half a chance of being actually elected president, then this country has not learned anything at all in the last 8 years, and then who cares what happens here…My take is, his chances are so limited in the current playfield it’s silly to get scared about them. By psyching the reading public about the threat of McCain if the democrats don't quickly get along, commentators actually plant uncertainty in voters’ minds, therefore contributing to the possibility that McCain might win. I know there are people who must write something to do their job, but please, how much of the same (pointless) sentiment can the readers handle?
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What will really happen in denver
The undecided super delegates will break for the Obama, the candidate with a majority of pledged delegates and popular votes. The Clinton camp will say that decision is null and void since the Florida and Michigan delegations have been denied a vote, which is undemocratic, so they will go all the way to the supreme court to deny Obama's certification as the Democratic party's candidate. It will be Florida 2000 all over again, and it will drag into October. All the while Joan Walsh will say that the democratic and legal process needs to run its course and there should be no attempt made by the DNC to force the issue, because there's no rush.
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a few pertinent points
one - the Supreme Court has no jurisdiction, so forget that idea.
two - there are, as we speak, deals and more deals being cut for superdelegate support. the longer they hold out the bigger deal they can get.
three - the DNC wrote these rules for just this kind of situation. if neither candidate can wrap it up based on primaries and caucuses then the "grown ups" step in and make the decision.
I hope this goes to the wire and that the superdelegates take their role seriously. The two remaining candidates are ill-suited for the general election.