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Clinton notches another do-or-die big-state win in Pennsylvania. Which is more troubling for Democrats -- her scorched-earth tactics or Obama's failure to build on his base?
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  • I don't have time...

    ...To read through all 98 letters that preceeded mine. But I am determined to post a letter now everytime Salon publishes one of these ABSURD missives. Are you all taking your marching orders from Sean Hannity, ala George Steph? OBAMA has overcome EXTRAORDINARY odds in just the last FOUR MONTHS. A year ago, I was groaning--and I was, because I have always disliked Hillary--over every article that portrayed her as the presumptive nominee. She (and Salon, for absolutely NO GOOD REASON) is just pissed that this young, exciting, "interloper" candidate is taking her Queen Bee crown. Nothing more, nothing less. I will tell you this: come November, if Hillary is the candidate, it will be the first time ever that I do not vote for president. Salon, get with it--you don't have to join the Obama team to be a good, solid, neutral source of news. You've sold out and SHAME ON YOU.

  • Where do the MSM get their numbers

    CNN, ABC, and CBS are all reporting a 10% win for Hillary, with 1,258,245 for Hillary which is 54.7% and1,042,297 for Obama which is 45.3% for a 9.4% difference, which they round to 55% and 45% and call a 10% difference. But the Pennsylvania dept. of state is reporting 1,235,067 for Hillary (54.3%) and 1,041,366 (45.7%) for Obama which is an 8.5% difference, and using their standard way of rounding would be reported as 54% and 46%, and be called an 8% difference.

    Small difference in reality (0.9%) but a huge difference psychologically. But, more importantly, if the MSM is not getting their numbers from the PA Dept. of State, where do they get them from? And why have none of them updated/noticed???

  • @HP

    And the Urban Black Vote is also smart. They know that it would be in their best interest to vote for Clinton in the general. And if it makes them happy... everyone in the Democratic Party expects Obama to have a long future with them from now on -- his speech in response to the Wright controversy ensured that. This I have stated in another old post.

    But should he win the nomination and lose the general -- especially if it is a landslide (winner-takes-all Electoral College, remember?) -- that future would not be so assured.

  • Clinton Talking Points

    The title of the piece shows that just as the MSM has absorbed Rovian talking points, some Salonistas are Clintonian ventriloquist's dummies.

    "Close the deal"? Clinton had been for more than a year the inevitable candidate marching to coronation. She had everything: the name recognition, the experience, the husband, the fervent support among unions and women, and the juggernaut money machine. Obama may be in the lead but he is the challenger, has been, always will be. Has any challenger ever done so well? That's the standard to hold him to. Gary Hart? Ted Kennedy? I am amazed and thrilled that he has done this well against a Democratic icon.

  • "Debate" stopped momentum

    Most analyses show that Obama was gaining on Clinton - until the ambush on ABC by Clintonite Stephanoupolous and Republican Gibson.

    Stupid and dirty politics is the name of the game in the U.S.

  • Huffington Post Predicted What You'd Say, Walter!

    Wow, Walter! "Obama can't close the deal." Seth Grahame-Smith predicted you'd say just that in his article last nite "Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night" in Huffingpost Post. You must have read it!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-grahamesmith/ten-things-to-remember-on_b_97897.html

    But Walter... Pennsylvania DID provide a definitive answer! Hillary can close the deal!

    Of course, it depends on Obama getting hit by a bus (perhaps a big, shiny red white and blue one with Hillary '08 on it?)

    Or committed delegates and superdelegates will have to jump ship, and most of the remaining uncommitted delegates will have to go for Clinton.

    Or Hillary and Bill could stage a coup d'etat at Denver.

    But YES SHE CAN!!!

    And those "stunning that 43 percent of Pennsylvania voters said they believed that Clinton would be the Democratic nominee." You said maybe they "never, ever turn on a cable TV news show."

    They may not watch cable TV, but it's clear they're reading Salon!!!! They're reading you! They're reading Joan. That's how they KNOW that Clinton will be the nominee!

    WAHOO!!!

    Now if Hillary would just chuck a big old Fridgidaire at Obama, we could be done with this!!!

  • msnowara

    If you want your daily pablum, go to Huff Po or Kos...Thinking people can agree or disagree without constant whining...Unless you're HP...Then please proceed to the exit...

  • Howard Dean just had an important announcment...

    We're goin' to Indiana! And North Carolina! And West Virginia! And Kentucky! And Oregon! and Puerto Rico! and Guam!

    YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

  • But Red

    The Southern Dems would have benefitted more from Democratic policies, but they fumed when they felt that the party double-dealt them. And we are still trying to get them back 50 years later.

    We don't know what the result would be because we are not in that group. I'll be happy to vote for Clinton in NOV if she can pull off an honest win. She'd be a fine President. You've seen me say that over and over. But I am used to getting a white candidate.

    But if African Americans perceive they have been disenfrachised, they'll stay home. They are not going to McCain, but they'll stay home. And that is a huge loss.

    That is a real danger. I live in downtown Philly, and it is a major concern of black voters, they are waiting to get screwed.

  • 43% Still Believe Clinton Can Win???

    Isn't that roughly the same number that think we waged war on Iraq as "payback" for 9/11?

    That's not "evidence" that Obama can't "close the deal," it's proof that 43% of the electorate are just plain stupid.

  • I still support Obama

    The Pennsylvania primary was hardly a blowout-roughly ten percentage points separated the two candidates. Even still- the overall count is still close in regard to a political race. Pennsylvania gave Clinton a slight edge, but still managed to keep both candidates strongly in play. It wasn't a blowout, as Mr. Shapiro's article would have us believe.

    "But watching Obama stumble across the finish line as the presumptive nominee..." At this point either of them would be "stumbling over the finish line". And in reality, Obama STILL has a delegate lead over Clinton. The Clinton nomination is not a certainty at this point.

    I watched both speeches last night and my initial impression still holds. Clinton gave a good speech, a solid speech, with occasional inspirational statements. However, it came off as a Patented Political Speech- the same tired, boring-but-wishing-to-be-rallying speech we've been listening to from candidates for at least twenty years.

    Obama's speech blew me away. He is passionate and genuinely uplifting and inspiring. Obama really cares about the working Americans in this country, and the vanishing middle class. He gets it. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that he doesn't have $109 million dollars kicking around in the bank. He also took the fight where it needed to go- to John McCain. He hammered on McCain in his speech last night, and showed to me, how weak McCain is as a candidate once you highlight his positions.

    People against Obama constantly harp on his optimism and motivation as if it were a negative. It is not. Besides, what has snarkiness, triangulation, cronyism and swift-boat strategies by insider politicians ever gotten us? It leaves our perennial problems unsolved and in the case of the past eight years- a nightmare we'll hopefully be waking up from in January.

    Obama '08!