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It seemed endless. It got nasty. (Babies were invoked, but so was bin Laden.) What will Tuesday's vote finally bring for the Democratic race?
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  • Hillary is done

    What will Cytheria and Wes and KateTex and all the other hysterical, divisive, shrill Clinton trolls do when Hillary drops out?

    Nice sleight of hand. Nothing much has changed except for 10-20% in the polls. Obama pulls a close one here and the race is all but over. Clinton could hold out hope if she pulled 20-30% in PA. That isn't going to happen.

    In all likelihood, Obama will need 80-150 of the superdelegates to Clinton's 200-300. That means you need 200 or 300 people dumb enough to rip the Democratic party in two pieces by throwing the popular will under the bus and endorsing Clinton.

    She'll find a few people that stupid, but not 200-300. The race is over. Every loyal progressive should get behind the winner and quit trolling for the right wing.

  • The gap between the bias in the articles and the letters is bizarrely great.

    The obvious pro-Clinton bias in the articles contrasts strangely with the heavy pro-Obama bias in the letters.

    We get enough biased reporting in the "mainstream" media - couldn't Salon work a little harder at obscuring its obvious biases? This article was just one example; the previous posters have very accurately pointed out the slant.

    At this point, it seems almost mathematically certain that unless there's a big surprise, the nomination will go to Obama. Does the Left want again to be in the position of destroying their own chances for the White House?

  • No Over Yet

    Sorry, but this is just one more battle and it's not over yet. And to all who are now whining and complaining, go find something else to do if you can't hack it anymore.

    Where is it written that a win is a loss? Hardly. Hillary Clinton, for all her shortcomings, is far better than many of the men who landed in the White House who also had their own peculiar "shortcomings."

    As more time goes on, it becomes more clear that Obama has benefitted from spineless media who need ratings and who prefer fresh blood instead of archived files of Clinton - and isn't that a sad state of affairs for our country when the media appoints itself as "supersuperdelegate to the Party" in order to bias our choices? All these over-priced talking heads wringing their hands and fretting over poor Obama and that mean, nasty woman who won't give him the nomination are a sham!

    And the guy who has outraised and outspent Clinton, professing all these victories in Southern states (where we won't carry electoral votes anyway!), and small state caucuses that are hardly representative of the majority of Democratic voters in those states, simply cannot knock her down - or out!

    No, this isn't over and as time goes on, Obama will be looking more and more hollow, and less and less November-ready.

  • Rose 22

    Let's just assume you are correct. Guess what? It doesn't matter.

    She cannot win without getting 65%+ of the remaining delegates. She cannot win with Super Delegates without alienating the party's biggest base, so she loses to McCain.

    She cannot win. I will ask for the 1,012 time...

    What is the third path? How can she win?

  • How can she win?

    In 2012.

  • Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night

    Wish I wrote this, but I didn't. These are the brilliant words today of Seth Grahame-Smith. It can't be said any better...and certainly bears repeating...

    Hillary Clinton will win Pennsylvania.
    Arguments over the meaning or meaninglessness of her win will dominate MSM and stretch bandwidth to its breaking point. Bloggers and pundits will dust off their favorite boxing metaphors: "Hillary's off the ropes!" "Obama can't land the knockout!" Hillbots will rejoice, Obamabots will panic, and McCainbots will watch Murder She Wrote and go to bed at six-thirty. I'll probably write a scathing post attempting to prove that Hillary is the devil incarnate. We'll all lose our minds.
    In hope of preventing some of this hysteria (especially my own), I thought it'd be helpful to keep a few things in mind during Tuesday night's results -- from Hillary's "victory" speech to the blizzard of spin that's sure to follow:
    1. Remember that there's no way Hillary can become the nominee without a superdelegate coup -- which would alienate a generation of young Democrats and dangerously fracture the party.
    2. Remember that her campaign leaked internals showing an eleven point lead (as a means of firing up her supporters and getting out the vote). Therefore, any win smaller than eleven points should be considered a disappointment by her own assessment.
    3. Remember that every time Hillary begins a sentence with "you know," or "my opponent," the next thing out of her mouth is a lie.
    4. Remember that when Clinton surrogates say "this proves Obama can't win the big states," they're ignoring the fact that he actually won more delegates in Texas -- not to mention twice as many states as she has.
    5. Remember that when the pundits argue that Obama can't win in white rural areas because they broke for Hillary, they're ignoring the fact that he won (in alphabetical order): Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.
    6. Remember that when Hillary talks about who will be "better against John McCain in the fall," she's talking about the fall of 2012.
    7. Remember that Hillary's campaign is $10M in debt, while Obama's has more than $40M in cash on hand.
    8. Remember that Hillary's lead in Pennsylvania was as a high as 26 points only a month ago.
    9. Remember that Hillary's late Pennsylvania rebound was forged in the fires of negativity and fear-mongering.
    10. Remember that the only manufacturing job Hillary ever brought to Pennsylvania was the manufactured notion that she was a middle-class, whisky-swilling duck killer, and not an anti-union multi-millionaire.
  • Nonsense

    Sorry, but this is just one more battle and it's not over yet. And to all who are now whining and complaining, go find something else to do if you can't hack it anymore.

    Where is it written that a win is a loss? Hardly. Hillary Clinton, for all her shortcomings, is far better than many of the men who landed in the White House who also had their own peculiar "shortcomings."

    PA is just one of 50 states. You merely assert that the race isn't over, without facing the reality of it. If Obama loses PA by 47-53%, and ties the remaining races, he'll need 95 superdelegates to win. Clinton will need 230.

    This is pretty likely how it will shape up. Clinton will kick ass in PR (and Guam?), Obama will stomp her in NC, and the remaining delegates will basically split, with Obama winning a few more than Clinton. I'm guessing Obama will actually need about 80 to Clinton's 245 superdelegates.

    If you think they're going to go 3-1 in favor of Clinton, what do you base that on? Nearly all of the undecideds since Super Tuesday have come out for Obama. The reason why is obvious: the electorate as a whole favors him, and they don't want to piss off the electorate.

    Clinton trolls, shills, and naive but innocent minded bystanders who think she has a chance of winning never like to talk about the numbers. There's a reason why. It starts to look like a fantasy when you try to make it happen for her.