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Wednesday's debate was devoid of substance and rife with gotcha politics. In the end, Obama seemed to win simply by not losing.
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  • @The Notorious W.E.S. WTF?

    So you presume Senator Clinton is currently mulling over her options for self destruction?

    Do you actually think Senator Clinton could win the nomination in 2012 without hole heartedly endorsing Senator Obama in 2008?

    It's an interesting notion, especially with regard to the alleged sexism of Senator Obama supporters, that Senator Clinton's supporters seem more interested in an Obama loss than a Clinton win at this point.

    I wonder who might have the real closet prejudices they should deal with?

    I actually have a slightly higher opinion of Senator Clinton than you appearantly. Although I think she is not the best person to occupy the oval office, I think she does what she does out of a real commitment to her ideals, and understands that baring herself, Senator Obama is the best option to have those ideals realized by the government.

    So, no, I think that upon Senator Obama's nomination, Senator Clinton will put aside her previous attacks and declare Senator Obama a tested deserving candidate for the nomination, perhaps even making light of her previous activities "He has weathered the worst, and know can lead us to the best" for example.

    She may secretly hope he loses so that she can make a run in 2012, but those feelings will be supressed for the good of the nation, just as she has done with many other feelings, no doubt, over the years.

  • Snerk!

    "We haven't decided what we are going to do yet"

    AHAHAHAHAHA!! Wes my man you're a GENIUS! I love you think YOU have any bearing on Clinton's plans..

    I can see it now, Clinton sitting in a dimly lit boardroom, surrounded by Bill, Penn, Wolfson, Ferarro and all her high ranking campaign managers as they are hashing out their strategy for the upcoming weeks. First Wolfson speaks, then Penn, the Bill and so on down the line...the conversation gets heated as opposing factions make their cases, the cacophony reaches a fever pitch until Clinton calls out "HEY! PEOPLE!!!" and she hammers her fist on the big oak table until a quiet spreads across the room. She clears her throat and says quietly "Thank you, but that's enough. Your opinions will be taken under advisement." she pauses for a second and says "There is one person I haven't heard from yet though, someone whose opinion is of utmost value, my reignmaker" and she peers down to the end of the big oak table looking into the darkened corner of the room, all the eyes at the meeting follow hers towards the same shadowy figure whom they had hitherto ignored. Clinton folds her hands together and says in hushed, almost reverent tones "Wes, what do YOU think I should do?"

    (man, you made my week Wes! AWESOME!!!)

  • There's No Prejudice

    We have no problem with Buckwheat being the nominee, but he has to pay proper tribute to Darla.

  • to the one third of democrats who are considering voting for McCain if their "fav" doesn't win

    this is actually pretty interesting:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/opinion/17kristof.html?em&ex=1208577600&en=40babad0d05af188&ei=5087%0A

    This isn't sports, folks. Read up and try to experience empathy for the other team....both team Clinton and team Obama have some valid and true points on their side. But most importantly these two candidates have similar policies which are very different from Bush (and McCain-Bush) who is on the "other" other team. And the whole team needs to unite to win in the final game.

    I remember when Clinton supporters were telling Obama supporters to "grow up" if she won the nomination. Now, we all need to be grown ups in order to end the Iraq war and accomplish health care. This is possibly one of the most if not the most important election I can remember (I was born in the seventies...). If I remember correctly, Herbert Hoover was a Republican who didn't believe in intervention in the economy when things started heading south...

    perspective, s'il vous plait! If you want to keep your house, your job....to stop the 12 billion windfall dollars pumping up a war that to McCain is very deeply "for honor" but is instead bringing humiliation, continuing violence, and a weak government in Iraq that still isn't up to bringing together different factions for consensus leadership....do consider, for more noble reasons, voting for a candidate who isn't your favorite, but who has nearly the same policies as your favorite...

    you wouldn't know it to watch the news in the US but politics is derived from policy...

    peace.

  • I should have said 12 Billion per month

    of course we can't afford decent health care OR education in the US while we are paying this money for ongoing wars...

  • Clinical death of mainstream media

    Last night’s debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama might not have offered new insights into the political plans of the two contenders, but it enabled the audience to make a first-hand diagnosis of the shocking state of public discourse in the United States.

    The two moderators, Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolous, spent the first 46 minutes of the debate discussing topics such as flag pins, the candidates’ choice of churches, and their attitudes about gun control. These issues are, at best, only peripheral to the staggering mountain of problems facing this nation. At worst, they reflect how much this country, and the mainstream media, have adjusted to the rightwing and proto-fascist fearmongering that dominated the last eight years.

    It is hard to imagine any other democratic nation where a contender for the highest office is being asked, not by some thirdrate journalists but by prominent anchors, whether or not he is a patriot. And all of this because he is not wearing a flag pin! Instead of accepting as evidence for his patriotism the fact that Obama, who had to answer this question, subjects himself to the grinding two-year process of campaigning, the moderators resorted to an embarrassing line of questioning that invoked the atmosphere of twentieth-century totalitarian politics: “You are not flying the swastika outside your window!” or “Where’s your picture of Stalin?” A similar gusto for manufactured scandals was visible in the questions about Obama’s pastor, Mr. Wright. Obama has answered these questions before, he did so again in a way that seemed integer. Yet, the overarching point is: Why does it matter so much? George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Condi Rice never listened to Wright, I assume, but they still lied, started a war, and approved the torturing of detainees.

    The moderators’ and ABC’s performance made no secret about their contempt for democracy. Several times, Gibson announced that they would cut away to a commercial break. Why do they need a commercial break during a debate that features two persons who might run this nation as president? Are they afraid that people don’t have the attention span? To see how the moderators and the candidates struggled to finish questions and answers before commercial breaks was symbolic of how a capitalist media system has hijacked American politics: The timing of questions and answers, the presentation of arguments is not important per se but, rather, has to fit into a representational grid established by the corporate structure of the medium.

    This contempt for democracy shapes how Stephanopolous and Gibson understand their roles as journalists. While they donned the mantle of relentless investigative journalists by pursuing the above mentioned trivia questions they also revealed a painful level of disregard for civil democratic structures. When Charlie Gibson asked whether the candidates would ignore the generals’ advice when it came to leaving Iraq, it was Clinton who had to remind Gibson that the US is not run by a military junta but by a civilian leadership that has the last word about when and how to use military force! No surprise, then, that there was not a single question about what the candidates would do about the Patriot Act or whether they would investigate possible war crimes by the current president, who admitted that he approved of “harsh interrogation methods,” a.k.a. torture. But, wait, how could Obama and Clinton know about this--Charlie, George, and their colleagues have yet to make a story about that. It will have to wait, though, because first we need to know about these missing flag pins!