Letters to the Editor
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Outmanuvered
Many posters here (And in other threads) insist on blaming the democrats losses in Congress in the nineties on WJC dalliences, or incompetance of one kind or another, and now on HRC "failed" attempt at health care reform.
Bull.
While putting HRC in charge of this initiative might have been ill-timed, it was not ill-considered. The Clintons were prescient enough to forsee this issue, but the rest of the country could not through the rose colored glasses of economic prosperity.
Instead, the right chose to laugh at the CLintons, and turn this issue against them, in a manner that is consistent with a longer strategy that goes back 20, even 30 years, to wrest control of Congress from the Democrats.
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Let';s talk about the good 'ol days
Let's see, the great Clinton years: failed health insurance try, impeachment, embarrassment, disbarment, lying, travelgate, NAFTA, a tax cut to the super-rich that dwarfs anything Bush has done, a second term that virtually guaranteed a Republican takeover of Congress.
Actually, I'd be a lot more favorably inclined toward Hillary if she had divorced Bill and been running by herself. The idea of him hanging around in the White House with nothing to do - or worse - making things for himself to do frightens me. He's a loose cannon and albatross around her neck. And frankly Chelsea, if she is really representing the campaign, will have to answer the question about how Bill's actions in the White House affected her family's relationship. She cannot just say it's none of our business because we have to know how those two will interact.
I heard one pundit -- not that we should pay any attention to them -- suggest that Hillary knows she cannot win this year, wants the race to go to the convention, wants Obama to lose to McCain so she can run in 2012. Personally, I think the only hope for a Democratic win this fall is if the convention deadlocks (which it probably will) and then turns to a compromise candidate in the wings: Gore. A Gore/Obama ticket would be unbeatable. (BTW, I am a huge Obama supporter and hope I am wrong and he wins both the convention and the election, but I just don't see that happening, unless the mess is sorted out early.)
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She is going to jinx the election
It's bad karma to say a Democrat can't win in 2008. I don't care which Democrat she's talking about -- she's saying a Democrat can't win, and that's bad luck.
What is it about Clinton ambition that makes them feel they have the license to stoop so low?
I came into this thing undecided between Hillary and Obama but now I'm losing all the respect I had for that woman.
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It's 2008
Not 1993.
As great as the 1990's were under Bill Clinton, it's essential that the next president (whomever she or he is) focus on leading America into the 21st century. The world is much different now than it was in the 90's.
To take a line from The Great Gatsby: "You can't repeat the past!"
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I can't believe it....
"tom payne" actually posted something civil and sympathetic to a Clinton supporter -- and without veiled insults or snide remarks!!!
Something good might be happening on these boards, after all :-)
Of course, he'll probably come back with a diatribe against me afterwards -- but that would just be a return to form, lol.
I think I'll give him an opening, too. Pssst -- my wife and I are voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.
I'll be back in a few to check if you bit.
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Can someone please explain to me
...how a Clinton supporter could in good conscience vote for McCain if Obama gets the Dem nomination? Would the grapes really be that sour? I'm strongly pro-Obama, but if Clinton gets the nomination i will be trying to turn out he vote for her. McCain would be a continuation of the disaster of the last seven years. He CANNOT win.
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@mdschill
If your post was in reply to mine, you'll find my reasons in my letter history. If not, then just ignore this post.
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With Dems like these...
...who needs Repugs?
"Antoinette Yachta, a steelworker from Throop, Pa., near Scranton. She isn't sure who she'll vote for in the primary, though she's leaning toward Obama, and she might still vote for John McCain in November. (In 2004, she volunteered for John Kerry's campaign, then voted for Bush.)"
WTF??!! I'm sick and tired of these waffly morons ruining my country. Clinton won Texas because a bunch of scaredy cat soccer moms saw her 3 a.m. ad the night before the primary. Now this bozo pollutes our party with her lizard-brained decision-making process. Get out of my party, retards...
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Voting for McCain
How any self respecting American, much less Democrat, can say they will vote for a Republican at this point is beyond me. What is wrong with some of you? Did the past 16 years fly over your heads? You are doing the same thing as the "values" single-issue voters many of you decried over the years. Moreover, you have don't even have a moral imperitive (like abortion) to prompt it. At least Fundementalists beleive they follow God's word. Some of ya'll are just running on pure self-righteousness with nothing to back it up and will vote for nothing but to feed your own spite.
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@ Duke of URL: Collar mystery solved.
Hillary Clinton is quite short waisted. Two clothing necklines make a short waist appear longer: Low-cut vee-neck and high collar. Obviously, as a presidential candidate, Clinton cannot show cleavage. Thus, the high necks.
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The Clinton years... the best of a bad lot
People have rosy memories of the Clinton years only because what happened before and after were so horrible. You know, the way Dachau really made you appreciate Weimar hyperinflation.
If the Clinton years were so good, why didn't Americans get universal health care? Why did public schools continue to decrepitate? Why didn't vehicle mileage standards improve in a meaningful way? Why didn't anyone do anything about global warming, already known by 1995 to be a fact (despite that era's corporate disinformation and today's corporate revisionism?)
What would Barack Obama have done with the peace dividend? What would he have done if he came to power just as the Internet and computer technology became ready for prime time? What would Barack Obama have done had he become president just as the North Sea oil field was hitting its stride, securing low energy prices and stable supply?
What would Barack Obama have accomplished with all the gifts history bestowed on Bill Clinton? Would he have ended welfare as we know it? Would he have presided over the grotesque swelling of the American prison-industrial complex? Would he have allowed women and children to be murdered at Waco?
And, after eight years of Barack Obama, would the contest between his Democratic successor and the Republican challenger have been close enough for the latter to steal? Indeed, after eight years of Barack Obama, would millions of voters take it as a basic fact that Republicans and Democrats are identical, that McBama equals O'Cain? Would anyone even think of making that kind of joke?