Letters to the Editor
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I'm too Brooklyn
Just not going deep enough and it cuts a bit too far in front. I think I need snap the ball off a little earlier. I also found that looking PAST the arrows, about 3/4ths of the way down the lane keeps my head up and straightens the lower back. But hey, we're still 1st in the league.
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@ HP
"It amazes me that I hear so many Hillary supporters (20% is the figure that I've seen quoted) claim they'll vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. A lot of that is surely racist voters, and people who would end up voting for McCain over Hillary,but a lot of it is sour grapes."
What amazes me is that you didn't "hear" that in the same WSJ/NBC poll you're quoting, it also said that 20% of Obama supporters would vote for McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. What does that make them? I guess we hear what we want to hear.
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@ Rambling Rose
Ok, first of all, I agree with others here that this whole issue of who is or is not working class is silly, so what I'm about to say has no bearing on whether Obama is a "working class hero."
That said, Rose, you write: "before you can be a working class anything you first have to work at something."
Are you suggesting that making one's way through law school (Harvard, no less) and achieving the post of editor of the law review doesn't qualify as "work at something?"
I sincerely hope you're not suggesting that somehow the only labor that qualifies as "work" is physical labor.
Are you?
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ElectroR
Doesn't the bowling ball go pretty much go in the direction of the thumb
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oh NO brun, it wasn't harrowing it was thrilling!
i was RESCUED! and by a black guy! it's a really interesting race and i'm looking forward to one of its members being the leader of our people. i have a lot of hopes, true, but if they prove half as prophetic, it will be as wonderful as that getty square rescue.
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In the baseball game of life
It's boos for Bush and "get the hook" for Hillary.
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The President and their legal responsibilities
Taliesan is, in some ways, correct. As far as I remember the oath of office, although the President is the Commander in Chief and does bear the responsibility for deciding when military action is necessary and requesting permission from Congress, the actual Oath says that the President will "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution".
That is, in some ways, a legal position. Is the President the final legal authority? Not at all. Certainly, the President gets legal advice from his legal team and from the Justice department and, in the end, even laws that the President doesn't veto (or put signing statements on) can wind up being declared Unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. However, technically, if someone is swearing to preserve, protect and defend the constitution, you'd hope they have some understanding of what that document is. It is a great shame that the current occupant has not only not protected it, he has done quite a bit to undermine it, and the Congress has been complicit in this.
However, I can't see why someone who grew up working class, really working class can't have become a lawyer. But, maybe we've just become too completely separated by our understandings of class and we don't believe that anyone's capable of it - or, were they just not really working class to begin with if they become a lawyer?
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@ david sugarman
I did pick up that note of optimism the first time. You're right, the story is ultimately a hopeful one!
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Hhatchet
should roll off the hand with the thumb and fingers like you're grasping a doorknob. I have a tendency to rotate the wrist too far.
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@HP
"It is not reasonable to assume that 28% see the differnces of Republican and Democratic policy as no big deal. Not when McCain is essentially Bush III."
Ahhh... you commit the basic mistake of political junkies. You assume that other people share your POV. Maybe those 28% _don't_ view him as "Bush III".
Or, maybe, each one of the members of that 28% group sees _something_ they like about him that overrides what they see in Obama -- whether it be policy or a character trait. Or it could be the inverse -- that they see something in Obama they _don't_ like and they would be willing to accept the policy difference because of it.
Which brings me back to what I think is the big mistake the Obama camp committed this election year -- believing that the Democratic Party "owns" its voters. No party "owns" its voters. They will readily switch sides if they believe it is in their own interest.
Thus, the appearance of the "McCain Democrats" -- something nobody imagined as recently as January.
Ah, the wonderful complexity of human beings. Keeps all these political pundits on their toes, lol.
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Hhatchet
No. In Robo's case the position of the thumb goes straight square up his stupid ass.
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Is Hillary working class
Is Hillary from the working class?
Are the 90% of African-Americans voting for Obama in the upper class? Are most of the students voting for Obama the upper class? To both questions I would say no. Many of the students voting for Obama are students whose parents have to take out loans to send their kids to school. Many of those parents are probably having trouble holding on to their homes,pay the college loan,high gas prices and other credit cards.
It seems to me that Obama is already getting most of the so-called working class. If we are specific he needs to just get more of the white male vote.
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Not his first Tour
We rarely talk about Obama's state senate experience here, but Obama has eight years of it. That's a fair number of bus tours. I don't think there's a lot of designer beer in southern Illinois either.
The bus tour that Obama is on is no different than what other candidates do. So far, he seems to be doing OK.
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Rock on ramblin' rag
You rule!
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Why Bush won... and Obama probably won't
@HP
It is not reasonable to assume that 28% see the differnces of Republican and Democratic policy as no big deal. Not when McCain is essentially Bush III. And people hate Bush and his policies.
I didn't mean to suggest that real preference makes up the total of the 28%. I think racism, sour grapes, and likely other considerations are factors as well. What some liberal democrats fail to consider is that not everyone sees McCain as Bush III. They see many instances where he fought against Bush, hence his "maverick" reputation and why conservatives hate him. Maybe the democratic nominee will be successful in convincing the majority that McCain = Bush III. Won't be easy.
@ WFB
No, I'm afraid America saw just who he was and still voted for him.
And did so again in 2004.
"That's America."
First of all, as well all know, Gore won in 2000. But since "delegates" were more important than popular vote... well, we know the result.
As for 2004, one of the reasons (certainly not the only one) that Bush won is that we were in the middle of a war (still are) and historically Americans are reluctant to "change horses". Most Americans are still "patriotic", as opposed to liberals for whom the word has become as nasty as "liberal". Even though Kerry was a genuine war hero and might have been able to play to patriotic Americans, his failure to counter the swiftboating did him in. I think that it is the questions that have been raised about Obama's patriotism (true or false, real or perceived), more than pure racism, that will eventually make him unelectable. The fact that this has not been a huge issue in the primaries is because Hillary's campaign has not (can not?) emphasize these questions. But the republican 527's can, and will.