Letters to the Editor
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@weeping for brunnhilde
(thanks for being one of the few sensible ones around here...it's certainly a breath of fresh air!)
as for Rose Hann...ignore her, she's not a Democrat, you can tell by her rapid fire run down through all the Clinton Talking Points:
1) Wright is racist and hates America
2) Obama is, by extension, also racist and hates America
3) Even if Obama isn't racist or doesn't hate America, he showed his hand that he has no judgement - he stayed in the church! (also note that they assume that EVERY sermon by Wright was like the one we've seen ad infinitum)
4) Hillary's a fighter, HILLARY'S A FIGHTER!!!!!
5) Sexism! SEXISM!!!
Rose is a troll, a freeper plant...you're best served by ignoring her.
cheers
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Obama: Visionary Minimalist
With friends like these.....
"Cass Sunstein, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School and an informal Obama adviser, said the candidate is imbued with a respect for the free market and personal choice that liberals do not always share. This can be seen, he said, in Obama's decision not to mandate individual health insurance in his coverage plan, unlike Hillary Clinton; his opposition to her plan to limit mortgage interest rates to prevent bankruptcies; and his vote with Republicans for the Class Action Fairness Act, which made it more difficult for plaintiffs to sue corporations.
"Sunstein views Obama as a 'visionary minimalist' who seeks to pursue ambitious goals that people can agree on outside the strictures of ideology.
"'He's really not an old-fashioned liberal at all,' Sunstein said. 'He's a market-oriented Democrat from the University of Chicago with strong religious convictions.'"
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@ debaser
Thanks! I never know how to spot a troll from the merely ignorant.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, as a rule.
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"Bring it on" eh?
Guess I'm not the only one who looks at Hillary Clinton and sees George W. Bush in drag.
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I think you ARE the only one who sees that, Calgodot
but I'm sure it makes your little willy stand up!
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Hillary, look at the time...
Clinton supporters: it's time to ask your candidate to step aside. At this point, she has the merest chance of winning the nomination, and even if, by some miracle, she does, it will come at the cost of exhausting the enthusiasm of ALL DEMOCRATS who desire, above all, to prevent four more years of bull-headed, intransigent and unenlightened national policy.
We simply cannot afford John McCain, whose credentials are apparently strictly his military experience and who acknowledges a limited understanding of economics (and displays less than that). And, in fact, we certainly should question his military/foreign policy acuity. Note Joe Lieberman lurking in the Middle Eastern background.
If each of our Democratic candidates were asked to describe his or her hypothetical victory, it's only Clinton who would have to rely on pledged delegates becoming "unpledged", or on some dubious calculus involving "electoral" votes (which would go to both her and Obama in a general election, anyway), or on some new arrangement to include Florida and Michigan (even though ALL democratic candidates originally agreed to debar votes from those states). Such a victory, relying on a mid-game change of rules, would not only be morally deflating, it would also confirm that change in American politics is not really possible. At least not change for the better.
Furthermore, Ms. Clinton's hope for a nomination now more than ever seems to require slyly diminishing Obama the Man, rather than emphasizing real policy differences. She did so yesterday by implying that Obama's continued association with his reverend makes him less a patriot than she: she shrugged her shoulders and said "Make your own judgement", hoping that seeds of discontent take root. This, in fact, has been her strategy, or that of her cohorts, for quite some time now, beginning in South Carolina, where the race issue was subtly introduced (note, not in a way that anyone could quite put a finger on). It continued when pictures of Obama,wearing a Djelaba, mysteriously appeared on Matt Drudge's website, and Ms. Clinton did not have the good grace, when questioned, to say simply "Of course he's not a Muslim". Her strategy to denigrate Obama was later evinced when Geraldine Ferraro suggested that his success is only the result of his race, and again Clinton showed lack of grace by not simply saying "Senator Obama is a worthy opponent of great achievement, but I think I'm even better". In short, Hillary Clinton's campaign requires more and more unsportsmanlike conduct, and what we really, really need right now, is a good sport! We're a party looking forward to change, and that will be an important contrast with the Republicans in the fall.
Ask Ms. Clinton to leave! If there's truth to the speculation that she's holding out simply to weaken Obama against McCain, hoping to run again in four years, beware of such stupidity. We should not, as a party, have to suffer four more bad years for the sake of Hillary Clinton's vanity.
Mark W
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@ calgodot
Not at all.
I wouldn't overstate the case, though, because I do believe that deep down, Hillary was once a good person and that her heart is in the right place.
I see her as an object lesson in how one can become one's enemy by appropriating their methods.
She fell into the trap of fighting fire with fire without considering what that might do to her integrity.
But that clip yesterday of her snapping, in the smuggest, most defiant way possible, "I mispoke, deal with it" (or whatever she said) spoke volumes.
That was a classic Bush response to criticism.
Entrench yourself in your own myopic hubris.
That's not the kind of character trait I'm looking for in the person who would answer that 3am phone call.
In fact, I find it profoundly disturbing.
Is there any reason to believe that the siege mentality with which she wages her campaign won't translate into foreign policy issues?
(Not a rhetorical question.)
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Hey Hey!!
Cythera45 is back!!
Welcome home sister, now let's hear some of that patented Cythera45 vitriol :)
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But, Markworthi, we WANT her to weaken Obama
to soften him up for McCain, then look ahead to 2012.
Hi debaser! You're cute!
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"Hillary has been vetted. It would be interesting to see them try and after she's done with them, they can go home and cry to their Mothers "A girl beat me up".
Oh yes, she's been vetted alright. As a result we're well aware that she's a liar, she's manupulative and rigid, she works in secret, she bases decisions on her own politcal standing, she doesn't read appropriate materials before voting on monumentally important bills (Iraq), she will not admit to mistakes unless backed into a political corner (then does so with fingers crossed behind her back), She makes the same mistake again (Kyle/Lieberman, she has no self respect allowing herself to be held up for public ridicule (by a sleazy husband), she puts herself before party loyalty and she drags behind her a Jacob Marley chain of scandals.
Anything else the Republicans care to throw at her is just the poison cherry on top.