Letters to the Editor
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actually their work is done for them
If (and that's an epic, titanic, "if") Clinton were to secure the nomination, I'm afraid she's dead in the water - and it won't be from any Rpublican Scare Machine smears, distortions or dirty tactics.
All they have to say over and over and over again is this "Clinton will garnish your wages for healthcare, that's right, she'll take your money"
and she'll have no way to retort that...because that's what she said she'll do.
You want to see people desert the Democrats in droves? Simply tell them you'll take their money
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Clinton Fatigue
I am waiting for the day when we will not have the likes of Carville to stain the TV screens. Given the way the Clintons are behaving, it is doubtful they will have any friends in congress after Hillary loses and she has to return to her seat. This is the Clintons' swan song. They have to fight, and fight dirty, no matter if they destroy the party. They did not anticipate the people rising up to defeat the Clinton generated shift to the right in the DNC and the DLC.
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She's the woman in disguise.
She the one who tells the lies.
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@ Mickey
Also, no one really knows how Obama will ultimately fare against the VRWC.
His campaign is unprecedented, which is one of its strengths. Could also be one of its weaknesses. How this will all shake out is unknown, especially when you factor in McCain's baggage, war, Bush, economy, etc.
There are just so many factors that reducing it to which of the two candidates can "survive the right-wing attack machine" really misses the mark. If this election turns on the power of said machine, no Democrat will win.
This election isn't about surviving such a machine, but taking it on directly, repudiating it and its legacy, not simply parrying its thrusts.
To do the latter is to grant it an unmerited legitimacy.
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The Republicans will viciously attack either one
Whoever is the candidate it is a certainty that the Republican slime machine will trash them without mercy - or honesty. The real question is whether Democrats - both leaders and rank and file - will wring their hands and get the vapors as they sit on the sidelines wondering why the candidate is not doing more to defend him/herself. If this happens yet again, we can look forward to four more years.
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I Don't Think I Can Stomach
One more "the party will be destroyed."
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(yawn) HO HUM
And what do Republicans see as the attack plan for McCain? The party that has brought us a severe economy, high gas and food prices, more scandal that was convicted in the last 8 years than was ever proven against the Clintons, lie after lie, failed oversight on just about everything, the Katrina mess, Iraq, and now a failure in Afghanistan is going to drag up a blue dress and some back woods real estate deal?
Oh, okay.
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Funny how just a few people post on this topic
Could it be because the rest don't give a shit about Clinton's crumbling chances of much of anything?
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Articles Like This Don't Help
Last week's reality check by Politico's VandeHei and Allen pointed out the downside to articles like this, couched though it is in a disclaimer pointing out the downside of a theoretical Hillary nomination/presidency: the very fact that you're writing the article only serves to sustain the baseless belief that Hillary can or will be the nominee.
To briefly restate their theme: it ain't gonna happen.
Please do us all a favor, and join the reality based community, where the candidate who is down in delegates, down in pop vote, down in contests won and in every other conceivable metric gets the message that it's time to exit gracefully.
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Chanayut
You are assuming Hillary has grace
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If
I repeat, if, Hillary wins Pennsylvania big, and then wins North Carolina, Indiana, and Kentucky the superdelegates have to look at it and consider, or they are nuts.
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@ WES
Agreed. So long as there are superdelegates, this would seem to be their purpose.
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Now Who's Spouting False Hope
Ironic, isn't it, that the candidate whose message has consisted largely of "pretty talk is no replacement for hard work" and "false hope is not a good thing," is herself now the great purveyor of both false statements (sniper fire in Bosnia) and false hope (among her increasingly delusional supporters).
Please, put all of those crazed Clinton supporters over at Talk Left out of their misery by putting Hillary down, so to speak. It's the only humane thing to do.
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Chanayut
Please, put all of those crazed Clinton supporters over at Talk Left out of their misery by putting Hillary down, so to speak. It's the only humane thing to do
Now who has drunk the Kool Aid? They subjected Obama supporters to such vile mindlessness, and now?
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Hillary Smarter
sunspot:John McCain isn't smart enough to mop the floor with Hillary--but she would surely tear that OLD MAN apart.Hillary is a brilliant woman that's why the Hillary hater's can't stand her because she is smarter than they are
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Maybe The Only Viable Answer
Is both on the ticket either way. Then we lose or win together.
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Nasty Post
Tom Payne: Your untrue nasty post should make any decent person want to vote for Hillary if you are an example of the Obama crowd.
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If Obama
Offered her the VP and she declined, that would piss me off.
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@ Kilroy
First of all, she's not smarter than I am. Her intellect is good, but she's not especially insightful, so far as I can see.
Competent, yes. Shrewd, undoubtedly.
But I think "brilliant" is a stretch.
But whatever, let's say she's brilliant. That's not the reason I despise her. I agree that misogyny is a major reason she was eviscerated from the start of her career as first lady. This is undeniable.
But it's not the only reason.
For some, no doubt, it is.
But knuckle-draggers aside, I think there are plenty of reasons to despise her.
In fact, I am disturbed by the fact that I harbor the same ill-will towards her as the VRWC. Our reasons, however, are not the same.
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what about the Dems. attack plan?
Oh, I'm so afraid of those big bad Republicans!!
let's hear about how Democrats will go on the offensive this fall instead of this garbage about the Republicans- who are down and should be easy to take out.