Letters to the Editor
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to tarajane
Here is the difference:
"I want to speak up for mothers who are fighting for good schools, safe neighborhoods, clean air, and clean airwaves; for older women, some of them widows, who find that, after raising their families, their skills and life experiences are not valued in the marketplace; for women who are working all night as nurses, hotel clerks, or fast food chefs so that they can be at home during the day with their children; and for women everywhere who simply don’t have time to do everything they are called upon to do each and every day.
Speaking to you today, I speak for them ..."
The difference between Obama's speech and Hillary's speech is she spoke for others, but not about her own experience.
She gave a nice speech, but not a transendent speech that spoke to our shared heart.
I did find this interesting:
"Let me be clear. Freedom means the right of people to assemble, organize, and debate openly. It means respecting the views of those who may disagree with the views of their governments."
RESPECT for others' views, even if they don't agree with the government. I hope Mrs. Clinton and her followers remember that.
Thank you for pointing out this speech.
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tom, tom, tom, tom-tom window-payne
Yes, I did read the article, which is why I want to say la-la-la-la.
But I see no reason to speak ill of Hillary at this time. It only seems to rally her supporters (as noted in the article) and perpetuate this shit flinging contest. My views should be widely noted at this point. Like Joan, I'm supporting whoever is the nominee (heh).
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fester has a point
you have a valid point about the glass house analogy, assuming that's what the "window" reference was regarding. I slur Hillary primarily to rile the vile. LIke you, I will vote for her if it comes to that. Shawn and dogstyle are particularly repellent, and venting here is cheaper than therapy. Yes, I've looked into it, and then back out. tom
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@tom
No, it was a feeble attempt to copy your own highly iconic imagery leaden posting style. :( But I'm fast coming to the point where I think what can be said, has been said about the Rev. Wright, at least for now. It's devolving into a talking point now. So rather than feed the trolls (yes, if someone consistently posts the same 'opinion' over and over again, it will leave tracks back to the cave), I think its time to start talking about all the other stuff going on in this campaign. The drum beats for war against Iran seem to be picking up again. Where the F is Salon on this one?
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@ Revere in Indiana: Woo Hoo!
Glad to hear it! I've read that the state is competitive for both candidates, but that Clinton has a slight edge because of Bayh and lunch-bucket Dems!
BTW: I'll be phone-banking for Clinton!
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@ tom payne: NIT Wit...
with an obsession for all things Confederacy.
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tarajane
No. Hillary did not talk about her own experience about being a female. Throwing all those statistics out did not constitute Hillary dealing with the inequities of her gender. This is a chickens way out. Hillary, tell us about how you navigated your husbands infidelities, your glass ceiling experiences, etc. Sorry. But that is not what Obama did. He related his own experience about being a man of color in a society that discriminates.
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johnny walker white
The tripod that holds up the fascisti consists of: pharisees; fascists; and confederates. So, yes, I have serious issues with all three, or any constituent thereof. Stick a stars and bars up your arse. No, Johnny, it's not a candy bar.
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oh, johnny boy
Now it makes sense: Indiana, the hotbed of the Klan resurgence in the 20's. You folks had a Klansman as governor. Not much has changed. I dated a girl from near Indianapolis (Carmel) many years ago, but dropped her. She was very pretty, very rich, and dumb as a stump. Maybe related to you; Lords knows you've got the dumb part down. love heywood
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Payneman
I like my Johny Walker black, neat and smooth
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madam
that's what worries the crackers. once you go black you never go back. I used to have a nip or several of the Black years ago, but me old liver won't take it any more. PIty. I have a feeling liquor sales will skyrocket during the fall slimefest.
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Choices and Judgement
"You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend," she told the paper. Clinton also repeated those remarks in the press conference.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Actually, you DO choose your husband, and he DOES choose his mistresses, and we the American people were held captive to a seedy story whether we wanted it or no. And they talk about Barack Obama's judgement?
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An open letter to Joan Walsh
Dear Joan,
It is my humble opinion that you should hire Tom Payne at the earliest possible convenience. His Hunter Thompson-esque musings would make for the most enjoyable regular column.
Who cares what he will write about - just wind him up and watch him GO!!
(no seriously...no guff. I think it would be AWESOME)
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debaser
Payne speaks to hypocrisy and stupidity. I would welcome Salon to give him a column. He would cut to the chase and call out the bigots.
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debaser, madam
You astonish me. What I write here is, by and large, vent and drivel. But I am a writer (website soon) of poetry, songs, essays, a play, a novel, several children's books. I started into journalism grad school at Cal but we kept breeding so I had to get a job. That was 35 years ago. I don't know if Ms. Walsh would cotton to my pithiness. In a column, of course, my targets would be more widely known bigots and hypocrites. We'd have to unlist our number. But, thanks for the totally unexpected words of support. Even after the heartbreak of '68 and all the erosion of culture, rights, citizenship, and education in past couple decades, I still a fire in the belly. And occasional gas. thanks tom
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Clinton is the Republican choice
Amazing to think the Democrats may allow right-wing loudmouth Rush Limbaugh to select their candidate. Limbaugh's Project Chaos, during which he urged Republican listeners to register as Democrats and vote for Clinton, helped her eke out a narrow majority in Texas and padded her lead in Ohio. Democrats have spoken and Obama has won this race. The only ones who want her to be the Democratic nominee are Republicans who tremble at the thought of McCain facing Obama in November. Democrats in the remaining primary states need to ask themselves why the GOP is so insistent on helping Clinton win her party's nomination. Then, regardless of their leanings two weeks ago, need to ask themselves if they want to win.