Letters to the Editor

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The '08 race has revealed the weird science of the Democratic primary system -- and the true problem with the long Obama-Clinton battle.
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  • Please explain to me....

    I'm confused and I'm sure many of you can explain.

    Shouldn't we be looking at each state and deciding whether it is most likely going to be a red state or a blue state? And then looking at the blue states and only compare Obama versus Clinton in popular votes in those states? What difference in the strategy of McCain versus Democratic Nominee does the total popular vote in the primaries matter if the votes in the red states are not going to be a factor in the general election?

    Or maybe it is not clear which states are red and which are blue.

  • "And then you have the audacity to blame the center left!"

    Actually, I'm blaming the right.

    Look, I've been in the center for many years but I went left for Obama. All I'm asking is that everybody think exactly like me...isn't this the basic approach taken in the Salon letters section?

  • Democratic Primary System is a Logistical Puzzle!

    Every four years the party of Will Rogers' ("I don't belong to a organized party, I'm a Democrat") concocts a new primary process under the guise of solving the shortcomings of the last disaster.

    Whoever can manage a campaign that SOLVES this 12-month writhing riddle in real time... as Iraq pretends to be fixed, the irrational exuberance of the sub-prime housing bubble implodes, the Bush-Hoover economy circles the toilet, investors stampede away from the weakest Wall Street banks, .... all along as the cable-news-monster continues to devour fallible politicians and preachers.

    Whatever candidate can solve/survive this gauntlet with it's built-in mid-summer doldrums when the swift-boats are known to attack..., He or She has demonstrated the unique skills, now has gained the experience, and is ready to be President of the United States.

    I only wish that we had placed similar obstacles in front of George Bush in 2000....

  • Why Shawnie Can't Count

    Having bloodied his thick pug against the same wall for weeks now, our dim friend Shawn White Male tells us that Hillary is really ahead. It's a Lewis Carroll argument, a caucus race that Bitter Bill and Hill the Shrill have lost; they just haven't the grace or the sense of national purpose to accept it. Examine, please, the piss and moan about Michigan and Florida, always couched in phraseology that blames Obama for disenfranchising the citizens of those states. To confer upon a simpleton such as Shawn White Male a term like phraseology is calling a turd a diamond. It just needs time and a sufficient amount of pressure applied. The sad thing is that these dupes think they're Democrats. They're Ray-gun damnocrats, which is another way of saying Archie Bunker republikans. There was a movie, Joe, in 1970 or so, in which Peter Doyle played a patriotic blue collar guy who got so incensed at his daughter's liberalism, if I recall correctly, that he killed her. That's Shawn and his fellow lambs, trying to lead us to slaughter. billary is not a leader; she's a weather forecaster, with her middle finger in the wind. She doesn't stake out bold or visionary positions; that would be Kama Sutra Bill, a flexible man in the personal as well as political sense. What the Clinton essence is, is this: move with the wind, blow job or not, and make the best of it. Read the polls and try to get to the "center", wherever it moves. This, my friends is the center of the problem: politics is the art of the possible, and involves trade offs and the occasional capitulation. What Bill and Hill the Shrill do is capitulate to start with. They don't stake out a strong position, and bargain from there. They sell out to start with. IF you call that leadership, you're as stupid as Shawn. To find out how stupid that is, read his posts. They speak, or mumble, or scream incoherently, for themselves. If that is the typical Democrat, we're done. Billary is closer to McLame than to Obama. That scares the shit out of Shawn, and there's a whole lotta shit there to scare. love, heywood.

  • @ Uncle Fester: Factcheck On Crossover Republicans

    I reread my earlier post to you about the numbers because I didn't read the Factcheck article the way you did. Here's an excerpt, which is what I was pointing to, but not very well:

    In Ohio, according to exit polling conducted by CNN, about 9 percent of the Democratic vote came from Republicans. They split their votes, 49 percent going to Clinton and the same percentage to Obama. Since Clinton received 1.208 million votes in that state, that means about 8 percent of her votes came from Republicans. On the other hand, about 10 percent of Obama's 979,000 votes in that state were from Republicans.
  • @lj FactCheck numbers

    The fact check numbers seem close to the globe numbers (diff by ~20,000), and also appear to match up somewhat with these exit poll numbers as well from MSNBC where republicans were 9% of the vote with the split 46/53 Hillary/Obama. I have no idea what the margins of error are, so I guess it's good enough for gov't work. If I had more free time, I'd do a bit more analysis: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21226009/

    It would be interesting to how the percentage of republicans/independents voting for Hillary/Obama changes between contests. I was suprised to find Obama won IA among democrats only 32 to 33.

    But my point was not that Rush was skewing TX results for Hillary, but that purists like billcap want to exclude all non-dems from voting results. So you have to through out the numbers from both sides.

    I can see his point, but I'm also pretty sure that the size of the democratic party is shrinking, not growing. So one could end up a candidate that passes the purity test among the faithful, but is unelectable. In some ways, we are already having that argument.

  • Nit PIckers

    Johnny Walker White dredges trivia out of Ohio. Very big deal. The only numbers that count, you dolt, are delegates. Crossovers, crossdressers, Rosicrucians, crustaceans... it doesn't matter. You don't get it. The heffalump is the freak republikan symbol because it's Dumbo. Thus, your perspective. Just get it over with and hump Honest John. That's' what you want. You and Shawnie the Pawn are plants: kudzu. Invidious imports that spread like the plague and choke native growth. Here's a number, Einstein: Billary is down over 150 delegates, losing key endorsements like Bill Richardon's, and has only one chance to overtake Obama: join John in a menage and screw democracy. That's where you imbeciles are headed. the dumbing down of Murka is ahead of schedule. love, heywood.