Letters to the Editor
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thank you - pdx-Kirk
For your reasonable response.
How many times have we seen in corporate America a new management team coming in and deciding all the previous decisions are stupid and revamp the entire system without understanding why certain things were there in the first place?
Certainly I think we ALL agree there is room for improvement but what I don't want myself is:
1. One big primary all on the same day. Nope. Big population states will simply swamp small ones. Regional primaries however might work.
2. Open primaries need to go.
3. I don't have a problem with caucuses. I find them interesting.
4. I understand there was probably a need for Superdelegates but they probably should go. However they should vote their conscience now as that is their duty.
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tom payne
Any Hillary Clinton supporter who even harbors a notion of voting for McCain, is not a Democrat, and deserves to turn in their progressive credentials. The people who are voicing these sentiments are not committed to Democratic principles but are in reality blue dog democrats in the first place.
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what a strange country? where everything comes down to a knife's edge!
why so evenly matched? it was one thing republicans and democrats but now Hillary and Obama?! where is de Toqueville when we need him?
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I agree
If Hillary is nominated I will vote for her, perhaps not proudly as I once thought, but vote I will.
I WILL be proud of the Democratic Party.
Let the Republicans be sheep. It certainly can't be said we don't do our best to vote our best.
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ProudTexasGirl
"Also, FYI Obama supporters, HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is leading among Democratic voters (i.e. taking out independent and Republican votes) by 700,000 votes AND this does not include FL or MI"
Uh...I believe OBAMA has a 700,000 vote lead over Hillary
"According to Real Clear Politics, Obama leads Clinton by slightly more than 700,000 votes after 40-plus primary elections. That number drops to just over 400,000 when including Florida's results (in Michigan Obama was not on the ballot)."
From Huffington Post
I'm not sure where you get that info., but even if it is true, you are discounting (or to use Hillarite language, "disenfranchising") a part of the population that nevertheless voted for Obama because they believed in him...BTW some of those folks also voted for Hillary...do you think their votes shouldn't count as well?
Sorry...but your tirade holds no water...except to other delusional HRC supporters...
And you come from my state?
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dumbtexassbroad
That's it. God Bless the hell out of America. Support our troops, semper fi, stay the course, work to do, heckuva job brownie, watch out for them darkies, hide de white wimmin. Anyone wanting to see a textbook shrew-driven pile of bile need only read the post from the "woman" from Texass to see what pastor wright was talking about. Confederate crackers are still around in the millions, and the job of reconstruction and reconciliation that might have taken place after the Civil War (or the War of Northern Aggression, as our Texass pridemonger would call it) but never did still needs to take place. Obama is in a unique, temporary, and fragile position to do that. Many forces well up against him. I'm surprised that Texassbroads friends haven't taken a shot at Barack. Don't think it can't happen again. I lived through '68 and it hasn't worn off, that sense of sorrow at a chance gone forever. Go pound a few lone stars, your pride swelling like a Texass tick, and then maybe, after dark, you and your fellows klan members can burn a cross on some coon's lawn. that'll show 'em for gettin' uppity. love heywood
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thank you Tom Payne
For that post.
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You're Quite Welcome, Peeps
Her post required lancing, and then venting. I apologize that I far too often wax personal and descend into insults and diatribe. But, you know, this election is so incredibly important that I, admittedly, over react to reactionaries. I'm fed up. It's time to get out of the middle of the damned road and choose up sides. then, we can start the process of reconciliation. No, that's not a contradiction in terms. If a bone is improperly set, you can limp the rest of your life. To make it right, you have to rebreak it, with all that pain, for the longer term good and the wholeness you're born to. That's where we are, or at least where I am.
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Losing respectitve bases
MaddieP wrote:
I've always said Clinton can't win the GE without Obama's base support and Obama cannot win without Hillary's. I'm not clear if he could now get Hillary's base.
The latest polls are not encouraging for either candidate: 37% of HRC supporters will NOT vote for Obie if he prevails, and 26% of Obie supporters will not vote for HRC if she does. The bottom line: NEITHER candidate can win now.
As the latest 'TIME' has noted ('The Blue Divide') at one time the Dems rejoiced over a surfeit of choices. Now, that choices have actually been made (as they had to eventually) positions have hardened and dem fratricide is the rule - as one beholds on numerous left-lib sites such as this one, 'Smirkingchimp' etc.
Add in the loss of Florida and Michigan, because no counting of their primaries looks feasible, and it looks like a shoo-in for Insane McCain.
Amazing how once again the Dems seemed to have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Overly pessimistic? Don't think so. With few exceptions, Obama and HRC supporters absolutely will not cross over to the other candidate's camp.
And so, we are stuck with Mad Johnnie until at least 2012, if we all last that long.
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droogoy
Obama will win the general election, with or without the Clinton votes. They are voters who would have voted for a Republican anyway. Most of them are cross over voters. Besides, the religious right in the GOP will most likely sit out the elections and will not vote for McCain. McCain is much reviled in the right wing coalition.
Obama has energized more people to register and vote. They are young and old, white and black, north and south and everything in between. If the GOP is going to swiftboat Obama, McCain cannot escape his right wing connections either where it comes to Falwell, Robertson and Hagee.
This is a more scrambled election year than any in recent memory. McCain and Hillary will lose out on the Iraq war and the economy. So tighten your seat belts and watch the drama unfold. I don't doubt in the least that the media is keeping Clinton in the campaign for more drama that is really quite a soap opera that has ended with Clinton.