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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:00 AM

The tragic fall of Eliot Spitzer

He once busted up "sex rings" himself, but the New York governor's hiring of a pricey prostitute has shattered his political career.

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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:08 PM

@madamfauntleroy: Your Ignorance Is Not Commendable

You too are an idiot who thinks it is always the womans fault.

Listen, these men are arrogant, igonorant slobs and in no way are their wives to blame for their indiscretions.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:17 PM

Tragic Fall

Well, as Lord Acton observed, "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even good men are bad men." One would hae thought Spritzer would know better . . .

Hey, didn't he head the "Harvard Law Review" when he was in college?

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:27 PM

Are there Rove fingerprints somewhere in the record here?

Did not Jill Simpson, an Alabama prosecutor, tell 60 Minutes that she had been asked by Rove to find "compromising" evidence against Don Siegelman, the then-governor of Alabama? This is a well-known Rove M.O. Were Siegelman and Sptizer on a Rove hit list?

How and why did the investigation of spitzer begin in the federal prosecutor's office in N.Y. when prostitution is normally within the jurisdiction of the state?

It is reported that banks notified the feds of "suspect transfers." Nowhere has it been mentioned that there were transfers of $10,000.00 or more, the threshold at which banks must notify the feds. There must be hundreds of thousands of transfers of that size, or larger, every day in this country. The largest number I've seen mentioned in reference to this story is $4,000.00. Why would a bank report a $4,000.00 transfer when they are not required to do so? Something smells here.

One wonders where this investigation really started, and at whose behest.

Rove complicity does not and should not excuse Spitzer. But agressive democrats beware! You're next.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:45 PM

ncawley

Now that you have called me an idiot, you are a way stupid woman.

Bill Clinton has been a philandering husband throughout their marriage. Hillary, a self proclaimed feminist and supposed woman of any substance stood by him through the many Gennifeer Flowers and the tens of women, even within the Democratic Party, who came forward to speak about his Don Juan exploits.

No woman in her right mind would characterize Hillary Rodham Clinton as a victim of anything. She had her own motives to stay in the marriage, and that is to run for President of the United States, hanging on to his coat tails, because without his name and without that dynastic arrogance, why would she even still be running after losing 12 straight states in a row.

So from one idiot to you stupido - get your feminism right.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:50 PM

Why do politicians have to be like this

If the man wants to see prostitutes, then why not campaign openly to make prostitution legal?

Instead of doing that, he builds his career on giving hookers a legal beatdown, and then he goes out the back door and hires them on the sly.

Words can barely express the feelings I have to this type of man.

CAN'T WE DO BETTER?

By the way -- I don't see Clinton or Obama as being THAT much better -- since they're drinkers who promise to beat down the potheads.

This is such a hypocritical society.

Spitzer beats down the hookers and then sends out for a girl. The rest of Washington beats down the potheads and then meets over drinks.

Yeeccchhhhh.

Oh well, this is who we are.

Rotten hypocritical sinners always looking for some other sinner to beat down.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:50 PM

What's "tragic" about it? The so-called "Love Gov" has more money than sense.

The commander of US forces in the Middle East, William Fallon, has resigned and that could possibly have tragic consequences if the Bush administration decides to attack Iran. Despite Governor Spitzer's extra-curricular activities, nobody died. His vanity will have been dented, his folly been exposed, his ambition thwarted but there's really very little new under the sun. Duplicity in politicians is not exactly a novel concept.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:53 PM

IRS Got Him

To the writer who stated that the Feds should be doing other things than "go after prostitution," please see the New York Times or other news sources. Spitzer was busted by the IRS, who discovered him trying to conceal the source and destination of thousands of dollars in cash that he was funneling to an illegal activity.

Also, how exactly is this a "tradegy?" Yes, I'm a Democrat, but all I see is a powerful and privelaged man breaking the law. You may not like the law, but that's irrelevant: take it up with the people of the State of New York. REAL tragedies are occurring every day in Iraq and in our own country with its broken health-care system. This guy just thought he was smart enough to get away with it. Well, he wasn't that smart, and it's hardly a tragedy.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 03:55 PM

Justice, Hypocrisy and Spitzer

I find truly fascinating how people somehow want to justify Spitzer's behavior because he is on on "our team." It seems almost universally agreed that no one here feels prostitution should be illegal or a politician's sex life is relevant for his fitness for office. The problem with what Spitzer did has nothing to do with sex. It is all about the moral universe he inhabits.

The least of the issues is Spitzer's hypocrisy in prosecuting prostitution rings. It goes much deeper. He built his life and reputation by using the law as a bludgeon. With all due respect, Wall Street reform could have happened without getting so personal and without bringing down individuals and ruining people's lives. But of course, there would be far less publicity and public "glory" for Spitzer if his actions didn't involve big name "perp" walks and throwing people in jail. Public shaming is a key tool for DAs to get convictions, and overcome the constitutional protection of presumption of innocence. For the most part, people, even if they are innocent, would rather cop a plea and get it over with, then go through weeks of having their name dragged through the papers while on trial or waiting for trial. Who remembers Theodore Sihpol III? Accused by Spitzer, with many others of "crimes against the little man". Unlike others he did go to trial, and won his case. How many lives did Spitzer ruin in order to build his political career?

Of course, Spitzer is not alone. It begins with the totally screwed up system we have in this country were DAs and judges run for office and so have an incentive to pursue publicity, not justice. But Spitzer, like Gulianni, was so ruthless, so moralizing and so destructive of people's lives, that he stands high above other DAs, and not in a good way. He publicly equated the law with justice and morality, and so justified everything in the name of the law. But his behavior was undemocratic, unjust and immoral. Maybe he could be partially forgiven for his ruthlessness if he truly respected the law and practiced what he preached. But his actions show his utter contempt for the law. He views himself above the law and for him it is just an instrument to achieve power. This same ruthlessness, this same contempt for law, this same instrumentalization of our society's values are at the core of the crimes of Bush & Co. While Spitzer caused less damage then them, his actions are morally equivalent. Anyone who justifies Spitzer while criticizing Bush & Co, is just a hypocrite.

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