Letters to the Editor
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2 rphillips
"Ellis Diablo, you point out Barack Obama opposed the Iraq war at the beginning and Hillary Clinton did not. Hillary Clinton was Senator from New York, where 911 occurred and almost 3000 of Hillary's constituents were killed. Along with almost every other member of the Senate, she voted to give the Iraq war authorization."
The Iraq war had nothing to do with 9/11, and don't insult the voting public of New York by claiming that they aren't smart enough to have known that.
Tell it to the thousands of dead soldiers who come from EVERY state in the union, or to the dead Iraqi civilians.
Tell it to the current children of America who will still be paying for Bush and Hillary's fiasco decades from now, when they are in their forties.
"Had Barack Obama been Senator from almost anywhere, but certainly from New York in 2002, I am sure he would have voted for the war authorization."
In other words, if Obama was Hillary Clinton, he would have based his vote on the same sense of political expediency that she did. I guess you're right. And if the Iraq war was a fifth, we'd all be drunk.
The bottom line is that she voted for the war, he did not. He was an elected official, even if not in the US Senate, who openly opposed her vote.
"As evidence of that, since he has been in the U.S. Senate, Obama has voted with Hillary Clinton to continue funding the Iraq War. Whether he was for the war then, he has voted to fund it since."
That's a valid point. I wish he had not voted to continue funding the war. I guess that's where their differences end. However, a crucial difference does remain, that being the decision to go to war in the first place.
Contrast that with John McCain, whose positions mirrors Hillary Clinton's in every aspect.
"As for health care, I personally want to choose my doctor and my health care plan, so I doubt I would support anything like the Canadian or English plans I am under the impression Obama supports."
Then you're confused, because Obama's plan is clearly less statist than Hillary's. Re-read my letter, where I clearly explained why, and if you need me to re-explain it, I will.
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thank YOu
I'd like to thank all those who call Obama voters youthful. Since I'm 62 it is quit a complement.
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Ah, Youth
I graduated from High School in 1964, and I'm an Obama supporter. I must have been brilliant to have gotten that degree before I was even born. Now, that's overachieving. What a crock. My 87 year old formerly republican mom supports Obama, and her three sisters, who are 89, 92, and 94. So don't hand me that generational crap. I think it's marvelous that those just eligible to vote are doing so in greater numbers than they have since the sixties. About time.
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lol@ "Obama's got a big problem with people who work for a living"
Translation: People who don't pay attention or care about anything but Baseball and are proud of their ignorance and hubris.
The words 'the American people' provide a truly voluptuous cushion of reassurance. You don't need to think. Just lie back on the cushion. The cushion may be suffocating your intelligence and your critical faculties but it's very comfortable.
It is, isn't it? Just continue to lean back on the cushion.
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One thing is for certain with a McCain/Clinton race
When McCain is debating Hillary and directs his banal "My Friend" schtick at Hillary, he will actually mean it.
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Simple
I have lots of relatives (both by blood and as inlaws) whom I have always considered unrepentant permanent republicans. But lo and behold, several have become ardent Obama fans. One, a marine, is even a campaign volunteer who hopes to serve as a delegate. I've quizzed them, and they are real supporters, not just trying to poison the well and interfere with the democrats' primary. They claim that Obama is different, the first democrat that they would like to see in the white house. These are exactly the sort of voters that the democrats need to win over from the republicans in order to win the white house--especially against an opponent like McCain who appeals to the middle. On the other hand, they have emphasized that they will never never never vote for clinton (above-mentioned marine said that he would rather be sent back to Iraq!--which a vote for McCain would almost certainly guarantee . . .)
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Hey NYShooter
I didn't post chants, I posted facts, indicating the experience you get if you elect a clinton. They sold pardons. They got a lot of illegal campaign contributions (google "hsu clinton").
You having a bad day? . . . did you vote for spitzer?
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Re; Ellis' Post
Obama was not in the Senate when the vote occurred, but he openly and vocally opposed Hillary's position, and, at the time, people said it would damage his career. He took a great political risk to be on the right side of an important issue.
GOOD POINT
And I might add that in some ways he is STILL taking political risks to be right.
- So far it seems he has not allowed himself to be dragged down into the muck and mudslinging in the primary, opting instead to maintain some measure of decorum and trying to stick to the issues.
- He could have avoided his "controversial comments" about Pakistan for which he was derided by the RIGHT (but ironically were later proven to be the exact measure taken successfully by the current CnC);
- he could have (like every other democrats on the stage at the debate) said he would meet with enemies only after preconditions were met (this would've been th safe route) and avoid being labeled as NAIVE by Clinton herself, the right and the MSM
- He could have chosen to sit this election out completely ...let's face it if he wins he inherits a shitload of a mess that cannot be corrected overnight. It will get worse before it gets better - and he'll catch the heat for it no matter what. That ALONE may destroy his career.
- NOT TO MENTION, that so many CHANGE agents in US history have been killed (King, JFK...come to mind right away). His policies of government transparency and accountability will NOT sit well with ANYONE BUT the voters of this country and MIGHT cost him his life if he actually means to do what he says he will. (Plus, being a black man in the white house will surely bring out the KKKrazies).
Like him or lump him yoyu have to see that he has a history of making choice that could cost his career to worse. He seems OK with that as long as he's doing what needs to be done.
I have great deal of respect for that.