Letters to the Editor
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Perhaps the Israel apologists would like to explain...
why what happens to that country is any of our business anyway. You can say that it is the best ally America has over there but the truth is, outside of oil, nothing in the middle east is any of our business in the first place. Which would mean that Israel isn't even our best ally, Saudi Arabia is. You can call me anti-semitic for asking this, but it wouldn't exactly answer my question, would it?
BTW: CUFI has nothing to offer the democrats, they would never vote for them in the first place.
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calbears
another classic example of the contortions by the anti-Sems--oops-- I know,really only anti-Israel--about the "theocratic" nature of Israel. The fascinating point is how calbears waxes negative about how evil that is, while completely ignoring obvious facts about countries which are 100% defined by a relgion, e.g., Pakistan, Saudi Arabia (has Islamic crescent in its flag!), Jordan, etc., etc.
Yet Israel, gives citizenship to its Arabs, some of whom are murderous terrorists, in case you somehow missed last week's murders of seminary students, which doesn't seem to bother any of the anti-Israel types as much as some injuries among rocket-firing Gazans-- now that's a real human rights tragedy, if I've ever seen one!
So I would reiterate-- the convoluted efforts to ignore these obvious realities in order to criticize Israel ala Calbears is at such variance with the truth that either he is really stupid, or an anti-Semitic racist, or both.
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When investigating a crime...
go to motive. If Iran is opening up an oil exchange where trade is in Euroes, then its obvious what this about. My guess is that their will be another incident in September (after all, you can't launch a sales campaign in August), followed by attacks on Iran in October. The anti-terror legislation will be ratched up, and McBush will win the election.
And I pray to God that I'm wrong.
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Some of the harshest criticism of Israel comes from within Israel
Look at the condemnations of Ulmert after the Lebanon war. As well, most Israelis favour talks with Hamas. Does this make liberal Israelis anti-semites?
I'm not buying this crap about criticisms of Israel being equated to anti-semitism. Is criticism of Bush being anti-Christian? This is just a thinly veiled attempt to stifle debate.
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north of the 49th,
I think those are some very sensible comments.
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i'm very disappointed in you manos99
but that's because i knew you as a barack supporter before a...what's the opposite of supporter? denigrator? how about denier? israel denier? forty nine i knew about already.
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jjppmd
I didn't say Israel was 'exclusionist'. I said:
'No state's raison d'etre can be religious intolerance and an illusion of exceptionalism with overtones of opportunism, achieved by a permanent state of war and institutionalised discrimination. This is true for Israel AS FOR EVERY OTHER STATE.' Including all the states you've mentioned and every other state in the world - including America. I'm not anti-semitic, I'm pro-human.
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@ Ben Sen
"If you were her, the frontrunner in a country that fucking loves war, and you want to be President of the United States, and you have been lied to about WMDs"
Lied to? You can sell that ice cream on the other side of the street, friend. I was alive way back in 2002, and I knew, as did many other "low-level civilians," that the Bush administration, and the obsequious CIA cretins attempting to appease it, were feeding us a complete line of shit regarding the dire threat posed by Saddam Hussein's massive Iraqi military capabilities.
If I was able to figure it out, so surely should such a brilliant lady as Hillary.
"and you can't prove if they're right or wrong publicly, and you haven't been able to count on Americans who are supposedly anti-war to vote in the past, who do not understand party loyalty, and you realize a centrist position is the one that doesn't expose your ass to a swarm of flies who refuse to vote for anybody called the "Viet Nam" generation, you go with the flow."
I'm starting to feel silly for even responding to your rambling idiocy.
"Party loyalty?" Talk about party loyalty to the families of the US soldiers and Iraqi civilians who' are now dead because of Hillary and Dubya's war.
Talk about "party loyalty" to the US children who will grow up with a dearth of public services such as education, health care, transportation, domestic security, etc. because they will have to shoulder a trillion-dollar bill for the Glorious Liberation of Iraq.
"I know, it's still immoral! It's horrible to think a woman especially could be so competitive--but I have news for you: pacifists don't get far in the U.S. of A. They have even been known to be sent to jail. But thank God we have self-righteous individuals like you to keep us on the straight and narrow."
I'm no pacifist. I can think of plenty of wars I could get behind. For instance, I could definitely support an armed insurgency of American citizens attempting to reclaim Washington DC from the choke hold of overfed Bush-bots and Clinton-groupies.
Nonetheless, Hillary's vote for the Iraq war, whether out of ignorance or political calculation, or "party loyalty," absolutely was immoral.