Letters to the Editor
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For some of us, "it" (i.e. BO-mania) NEVER STARTED
Obama didn't just slip on March 4th, he fell flat on his face. He outspent her in Texas at least 2 to 1, and as a proud Texan--and an even prouder Texan for Hillary--I can state for a fact that we didn't buy what he was selling NOT EVEN FOR A MINUTE. As a highly educated extremely progressive woman, I find it distasteful in the extreme that the media AND the Democratic Party is trying to tell me that I have to choose a hack as President of my country. Barack Obama is the best actor and quite possible the worst candidate for President the United States has ever had. The last thing we need is another self-serving egomaniac in the white house. Wake up People, turn off the television, read, listen, and THINK!!!!!
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Complaint about Hillary Clinton's degrading his intelligence, his ancestry and religion
I am sick and tired of hearing Hellary Clinton's constant degrading Obama's intellingence and his qualifications. This nation somehow has a problem with this man period. And mainly
that he is BLACK. They would rather beat around the bush than
to admit that very fact.
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Make-over in Michigan and Florida!!
I agree completely with Joan. Michigan and Florida need to do make-overs. To seat the delegates based on the existing elections is not acceptable since neither of the two major candidates campaigned in those states. But for the democratic party to deny those two states the right to seat delegates according to their preferences would be even worse in that it would disenfranchise millions of potential voters in the general election.
The status quo favors Obama so I expect that he and his supporters will give voice support to new primaries, but in the background they will do everything possible to oppose those primaries. Or they might push for the caucuses instead of a primary. Wonder why? Well, Clinton won by about 4% in Texas in the popular vote, but Obamam won in the caucus. The Obama folks do not appear to be making a big deal of this! Big surprise, right,since it shows how unfair this system in terms of equal equal on the basis of vote.
Sandy King
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@ProudTexasGirl
interestingly enough, one could substitute "hillary clinton" for "barack obama" in your ending rant and have just as valid of a point, which means you didn't make one.
hillary has chosen classic clinton attack strategies. she is not just attacking him, but she is blatantly insulting his millions of supporters as delusional, pie-in-the sky dreamers who are too naive to understand the real problems we face. when she trots out her nauseating new little sarcasm routine, she's purposely tapping into the classist warfare that exists between blue- and white-collar democrats. while hillary scores well among the less educated, working-class democrats, obama is the choice of the educated, elite democrats, who the lunchbucket dems resentingly think are arrogant assholes who think they know what's best for everyone.
meanwhile, the more educated democrats are flabbergasted that people are buying into clinton's base-level, fear-and-paranoia based appeals, and furiously insulted that she has the nerve to attack their sensibilities, when it's her supporters that display a lack of true understanding of the complexity and nuance of the issues, particularly on foreign policy (which is why the red phone ad worked so well).
so while clinton herself is attacking obama's supporters, obama is saying nothing foul of clinton's - he's sticking to her. he understands that if he wins the nomination, he needs full party support to beat mccain, as hillary will need as well. but hillary is so desperate that she's resorted to betting that there are more blue collar dems than white collar dems, and is pitting the party against itself as a last-ditch effort to stay in the race. she's not stupid - she knows she's turning off obama's supporters in a big way. but she's gotta do whatever it takes - the tenacity of the cockroach. she figures enough will still bleed blue in november that she can get away with it.
when clinton supporters rail on obama's experience, they only show their ignorance to their own candidate's inexperience. when they rail on obama's empty-rhetoric, they show their ability to parrot simplistic arguments that have no basis in truth. and when they question his patriotism and have sneaking suspicions that he may be somehow affiliated with islam, they display their bigotry.
i'm not saying there are no possible legitimate reasons to vote for hillary - rather, i'm saying that of everything i've ever read supporting hillary, i can count on one hand the number of reasoned, principled arguments that did not include one of the above-listed misgivings about her opponent. and i'd need a warehouse to fit everything i've read that relied exclusively on one or more of them.
although none of them holds a candle to the type of inanity seen in ProudTexasGirl's post above. congratulations. you've set a new low water mark.
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Clinton's support base:
Here's Hillary's magic support crutch, the old, the uneducated, and out of touch. I sure hope we can get some of those old folks into uniforms to fight for "truth," justice, and the Hillary way in Iran next year. Lots of luck!
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@ tbrandel: Another Shot Across the Bow
I can't believe the animosity and hatred directed at ProudTexasGirl, Clinton supporters, and Hillary Clinton.
What drives you to such extremes? Many of us are trying to hold sane, informative and thoughtful debates and discussions on these issues and the candidates, without debasing and denigrating candidates or their supporters.
I just finished posting, not one hour ago, the need to end this mudslinging, name-calling, playing fast and loose with "facts", and for some civility and sanity, and once again it is an Obama follower who seems not to care what others at Salon think or say -- as though you are somehow above or beyond such banal niceties and requests.
Please! It is fine to disagree with a person's support of a candidate; it is fine to disagree with something that a candidate does or does not do. But you do not need to shovel that at a Clinton supporter; and you do not need to use right-wing Republican tactics and talking points to argue!