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Friday, February 29, 2008 12:00 AM

Hillary at twilight

Was her campaign stop in an Ohio town called Hanging Rock a metaphor -- or a symbol of dogged defiance?

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:13 PM

Well we'll see...

18 to 30 year olds been more motivated to vote more so than ever before. There's a lot of frustration with where the enlightened "idealism" of baby boomers has brought us.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:28 PM

Whoa, chhabili

You said: "They [Clintons] shamelessly injected race into the campaign and are now reaping the benefits of dirty politics."

Sorry, but many millions flatly disagree with you on this, including me. Those millions believe it was Obama who did the maneuvering. Yes, Bill Clinton perhaps should've kept his mouth shut in SC, but his words were subsequently twisted and misrepresented beyond all recognition, almost undoubtedly with a mighty shove from the Obama campaign. This shameful passage has subsequently left me with very little regard for your candidate who, finding himself with an incredibly lucky opening, went for it and never looked back.

Also: due to an almost complete lack of MSM vetting of Obama, I've done a fair amount of reading about his history, following online links to reputable sources. My conclusion, and not a difficult one to reach: Obama is NOT a new kind of politician in any way, shape, or form. The idea that he is, IS a fairy tale. Obama is right out of the Chicago mold (having lived there for some years, I can indeed recognize the type). There's no way you can live in that city and run for office - any office - without having a rhino hide and the ability to quash rivals like so many roaches.

You also said: "Also, having read your previous posts, I am left with a sad feeling that you are dismissing Obama just because of the color of his skin. Maybe, if you can somehow look past that, you will find that Obama has more character than both the Clintons put together."

Well, save the sadness, because I'm not now, nor have I ever been a racist. BTW, this 'closet racist' gambit on the part of Obama supporters is not doing your candidate any favors, and the concomitant and apparently bottomless assumption of moral superiority is getting really wearing. Do you really think you'll get to heaven on the strength of "I voted for Obama in '08'? Best of luck with that.

Sorry for the snarkiness, but I'm simply out of patience with the whole Obama deal.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:45 PM

Change

Change, yes, I am for that. The kind of change I want is competent,articulate and experienced leadership. That is why I want Hillary.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:49 PM

Well don't worry...

,,many of us are just about of patience with you.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:21 PM

@KateTex

You opine "Do you really think you'll get to heaven on the strength of "I voted for Obama in '08'? Best of luck with that."

KateTex, I really don't believe in heaven or hell. I am a confirmed, card carrying atheist and do not believe in any supernatural powers, whether earthly or other worldly, to "save" me as you are so driven to portray all Obama supporters, a convenient mantra of people under the spell of Hillary, spouting her favorite mantra

You characterize Obama as a product of nefarious Chicago underworld politics, unsubstantiated and uncorroborated, and yet you insist that Hillary is everything an a bag of chips in the face of her failures that she now characterizes as her dubious "experience." What happened to her universal healthcare? How far will her second attempt go, you think?

Even Marian Edelman who Hillary calls her friend, left the Clinton administration after criticizing their policy on children and welfare. Don't trust me. Just Google and find out for yourself. Why do you think that a huge number of former Clinton operatives are now working in the Obama campaign? They all cite their disillusionment with the Clintons when they woke up to their lack of integrity in their lust for power.

Fine that you are a Clinton voter. But do try and not damn Obama supporters as cult followers who will drink kool aid to go to heaven. Save me this line which trust me, you are parroting from a Clinton talking point.

Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:37 PM

Xrandadu

first off: Barack (worship ME or else!)Obama hasn't EARNED squat - who is pulling his strings?

Why did he vote FOR Dick Cheney's Energy Bill? ( Hillary voted NO)

Why did he vote to REAUTHORIZE the Patriot Act? ( yes, Hillary did vote yes originally, then voted against its reauthorization)

Why did he endorse war hawk Joe Lieberman in the 2006 Senate race over progressive Ned Lamont?

Why did he vote "present"on stem cell research?

Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:41 PM

Hillary Hope

It is difficult reading an article such as this one because I do not want Hillary to give up the fight. The reason--- I do not believe Obama will be elected in November over McCain. He is too unknown, plus as the media favorite, he has had every break which will soon end when he becomes the nominee. At that point, the press may very well depict McCain as the experienced candidate, the man with integrity, and the moderate political maverick while Obama will be cast as the liberal, the voice of hope with little experience, and a question mark in foreign policy saying on the one hand that we must exit Iraq but threatening to invade Pakistan on the other. Fickle is the media! The Rezko deal may prove a factor, also.

Polls taken now are not a real barometer about public opinion in November. There will be many older conservative Democrats who stay at home or even vote for McCain.

Democrats prefer Clinton over Obama while the latter is popular with independents, the young, and, of course, blacks (see Slate.com article by Christopher Beam entitled "A Number You Probably Haven't Seen" 2/28/08). Added to the picture are crossover Republicans voting in the primaries who will undoubtedly vote for McCain in November. It should be noted that the Rasmussen poll today has McCain beating both Hillary and Obama. That is a warning! McCain should not be underestimated by Democrats.

Many independents cannot be depended upon to go for Obama in the national election, leaving the young and the blacks to get to the polls. The blacks will be there but young people are not always so reliable. Certainly, there will be many Democrats who remain faithful to the party, but if they are like me, their enthusiasm may be more forced than spontaneous. I don't see Obama winning but Hillary may stand a chance because she is superbly qualified, a veteran in the political arena, and undoubtedly a fighter to the core.

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