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Friday, February 22, 2008 12:00 AM

Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment

All that mattered about the showdown in Austin was whether she could stop Barack Obama's momentum. Were her powerful closing words a magic bullet?

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Friday, February 22, 2008 05:49 PM

@ a voice of reason:

It's not too late to break the spell.

It certainly isn't!

And with that I rest my case about Barack Obama's followers...

Friday, February 22, 2008 06:07 PM

do some of you read what you post ....

"What I believe really distinguishes these two candidates is that I think that Barack Obama, in his heart, does not really think that this race is about anyone but him. He would have difficulty expressing the same sentiment that Hillary Clinton did in a convincing way, even though he is quite glib when he is telling everyone how uniquely capable he is of bringing everyone together."

I'm sorry ... this is the sort of subjective squishy nonsense that I just can't stand.

CBS: Now tell me "won't get fooled again, when did you actually BEGIN to be able to see into peoples' hearts?

WGFA: Well, it started slow ... it began with seeing Obama's ora and seeing that it's color was more toward the red side and thus indicated he was insincere and unfit to be president. Then he kicked my dog in a dream. Then he couldn't tell a finale story quite as well as Hillary one day, and, although we've all been criticizing him as being an empty suit, I knew, really knew, that he was true evil.

CBS: (announcer going white) back to you at the studio dave ...

well, there's my friday night amusement ... back to the saltmines.

Friday, February 22, 2008 06:12 PM

Why I cannot support Ms. Clinton

I was watching the CBS Evening News tonight and they ran the bit from the debate last night when Hillary made the "hits I take are nothing compared to the hits the American people take..." comment. Then they ran a piece of tape from a Bill Clinton speech during his campaign in the 90's when he said, "the hits I take are nothing compared to the hits..."--it was word for word. This after her slam about Obama and Xerox. She is creepy. I'll vote for her if she wins the nomination, but it will be through clenched teeth. She is terrible and completely without a heart or soul.

Now, Clinton supporters, please explain why this is ok. I would really like to know.

Friday, February 22, 2008 06:21 PM

Hillary's hypocritical "plagiarism" charge deserves to destroy her candidacy

Watch this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

Then send it to everybody you know.

Again, that's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

I mean, come on!

The funny thing is, all the Clinton supporters are trying to pretend that the only charge people are making against her is that she said "we're going to be fine"....

It would seem that hypocrisy flows from the leader to the followers.

Friday, February 22, 2008 06:24 PM

SocsandTwigs I always like your posts

Personally I blame Mark Penn for the Clinton campaign's greatest failures. He wanted to her to run the "manly" campaign of "ready on day one" instead of showing her heart (yes and it's red aura) like she should have to win over the independent voters who couldn't get over her public personna which has been well...too phony. Not genuine enough (except for the moments in New Hampshire and at the end of the Texas debate).

I think underneath, they are both candidates with good hearts. I read "Dreams from my father" and I don't believe that its author has a bad heart. Vaclav Havel was writer and a good president...but in America people are scared of intellectuals (so they aren't scared of Bush). And they are especially scornful of black intellectuals. (Incidentally, I wrote my senior paper on W.E.B. DuBois...)

Yes, I know the haters will never be able to see similarities between Obama and anyone like Havel or DuBois...but I see him as flawed but kind. And intelligent and deep thinking. Two good candidates, but one has run a stronger campaign.

shalom.

Friday, February 22, 2008 06:29 PM

hey clinton...

fuck off.

Friday, February 22, 2008 06:34 PM

All you Clinton defenders, please explain yourselves

(1) You defend Clinton's charge of hypocrisy against Obama as being fair game, and of fitting the definition of "plagiarism."

(2) You defend Clinton's ill treatment of her ghost writer on "It Takes a Village."

(3) Then when challenged with Clinton's own copycat speech expressions, you ignore the worst of them, and try to pretend the only charge being made was that she used the word "fine"

How on earth do you explain her word-for-word Xeroxing of her husband's closing statement? Here it is yet again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

How do you explain that? We are all waiting with open ears. We're waiting.... We're waiting..... We're waiting....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

Not plagiarism? Okay, then why not? How is this somehow magically different from what she's accusing Obama of?

For the record: I wouldn't even make a big deal out of Hillary copying Bill except for the fact that she's such a low-integrity twit that she followed her advisors' suggestions and decided to use a phony "plagiarism" charge as a way to go negative in hopes of winning back the candidacy.

The fact that Hillary decided she had to sink this low, and using such dumb material to do so, EXEMPLIFIES why she is not fit for the highest office in the country!

How can you still support Hillary after this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

Hillary Clinton could have gone out with grace and class. She could have maintained her focus on her managerial strengths and incredibly policy acumen.

Instead, Hillary Clinton decided to become like any other politician and grab at anything she could work with to attack her opponent.

That is not leadership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

Still waiting for you Clinton supporters to explain this.

Still waiting....

Still waiting....

Hello? Anybody? Anybody?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

Hello?

Come on... Let's hear your explanation for how she's not a hypocrite.... Come on... Anybody....?

You've written Anonymous messages for dozens of pages, and the whole time you've pointedly avoided addressing this hypocritical example of Hillary's lack of integrity. What's up with that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

By the way, what are you all Hillary defenders going to do after she bows out? Are you really going to spend the next 9 months attacking Obama just for besting your favorite candidate? Are you really going to vote for McCain to "get back" at Obama? I mean, is that really your plan? Do you really have that much bitterness in your hearts? Are you really committed to a child-like revenge?

Note: This message is not addressed to the more level-headed Hillary Clinton supporters, who are probably lying low. This message is addressed to the die-hard Hillary Clinton supporters who have allowed their support to rot into hostile, anti-Obama slurs and a willful, denial-like mindset.

One last time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301

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