"OOOoOOOooOh she's so ambituious!! What a bitch! Cankles! OMG I can't believe she stayed with that womanizer! OMG I can't believe she left her family!! She's such a divider! She caved to Republicans! I can't believe she has the audcaity not to concede! She couldn't handle being "periodically down" and condeded! Obama is such a unifier! Obama gave her a beatdown!"

YAWN. They both did very well last night, and you would have to be functionally retarded to disagree.

To Anoymouse first because he's been waiting in the long grass for some time now. I'm not being paid by anyone but, if you are, they're paying you too much for your weak puns and silly permutations of my name. Barack is so much more charming, isn't it, but you do have to hope the British press gets it right because "to barrack" means to shout or jeer and total humility is needed when THE NAME is mentioned.

Ron Smith, well may you be amazed but I come from the land of James Joyce and lively brains are part of the mystique. I'm just an enthusiastic amateur, of course, a flibberty-jibbet who will always find something to entertain me. I've never had the need for Prozac because my endorphins and all my hormones perform a perfect symphony. Hush now, Maureen, you're beginning to sound as smug and self-satisfied as Senator Obama.

You epitomize why lefties lose over and over again. How do in the hell do you expect REAL people with REAL problems to relate to that gibberish you are forever spewing.

Btw - I am a different anonymous.

Stackey, Victoria Bitter is indeed the nectar of the gods. Last time I checked it wasn't available in the States, and the manager of my favorite large liquor store told me that everyone who returns from Australia asks for it.

MO'D is like many Irish people that I've met: absolutely narrow-minded in their own self-righteous cosmopolitanism. She decided Hillary deserves to be President, to save Americans from themselves, and anyone who argues differently is either acting from the basest of impulses or is sadly misinformed. I can tell MO'D that the Clintons look very different on this side of the pond than on theirs, but I know what little effect that would have. Instead, I'd like MO'D to image that Americans have became convinced that the Maureen Haughey was the salvation of Ireland, and anyone who disagreed was a misogynist or bigot. That's essentially what you have been making a fool of yourself arguing here, MO'D.

Anyone wathching the debate saw two people who mostly agreed on all the subjects. Yet you could see that Hillary was trying her best to score points while Obama was left trying to prove he is more then fluff.

What I don't understand is what the Hillary supporters are trying to accomplish with the name calling. I guess being negative is the best way they know how to presuade others to voter for their candidate.

What is your slogan? "Solutions without Hope work." "Your a fool to belive in HOPE." "Beliving in Hope is a fairy-tale." They sound like the Morgan Freeman's charecter in the Shawshank Redemption who said (parapharse) "Hope is dangerous." Hillary is the Morgan Freeman of American Politics. "Don't get your HOPES UP to High. That pessimism and negativity is what hurt her in the 90's. We all know how the GOP hated her but she could not even presuade many of her own fellow Democrats.

In 1994 her husband was the President, the Democrats had the majority in the house and senate and yet with all her so-called experience and the force of the government behind her, 12 years later we are still talking about universal health care. The division while she her husband we in office was so bad that not even enough Democrats would vote with you.

Sen. Obama no doubt is going to make some mistatkes but I unlike Clinton I think he will learn from them and do better. All you Clinton supporters know that if she had acknowledge that her vote in Iraq was wrong many months ago those that are against the war would be with her. It would be a whole different race. She blew it! Her experience tells her you can't acknowledge mistakes and look strong. She is acting just like Bush who never admits to a mistake. Thus she like him has weaken our army, economy and stature around the world.

Time for a change.

After all, he obviously wouldn't have known what to hell to say any other way and they probably knew it. (for the REAL Obama, ask him what he accomplished at any point in his life before he had time to stage it)

CNN and MSNBC this year have been working to ensure they don't have to run against HIllary far harder than Fox Jazeera.

They, along with the nuts here, and the radical right groups that encouraged Republican voters to change their registration to ensure their candidate ran against Obama instead of HRC.

(aka "Republicans for Obama"). That Obama appeals to Republicans has gotta be the biggest lie since Santa Claus.

I bet you Obambi loses every state Gore and Kerry lost PLUS NJ, NY and California.

well, dear, since you elected to opt for "CHANGE" without a fucking mechanism for it to happen, iow, change doesn't happen because some articulate freshman tells lefties what they want to hear, than you will get change allright.

In the form of President John McCain.

I hope you knee-jerk assholes still think that punishing Hillary was worth it a few years into that and a Republican Congress.

I agree. It's a little discouraging when the folks at Salon, and it seems to be all of them, let their feelings show, especially when their stated goal is to be objective.

I would prefer a declaration, along the lines of, "I'm rooting for Hillary" so that their preferences and biases are on the table. As it is, the piece that praises Obama and/or is less than enthusiastic about Hillary, is a relatively rarity.