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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
I can see it now... "Don't blame me, I voted for HIllary" bumper stickers. I sure hope the democratic voting people of this country can finally elect a president, and do so with out forming a huge divide within the party.
My word are you one cynical bugbear! I get it, I get it...it must be hard to be the only one cooly disengaged from the process, the only one to see the forest for the trees blah blah blah.
It must be so painful for you to watch all these young and idealistic people rallying behind a politician...after all only you can really see that he's an Elmer Gantry, life must be tough.
Yep, all those idealists are most certainly wrong. History has shown the folly of their ways, except..you know...when it hasn't.
(1) There's a difference between idealism, and a religious devotion to a man selling not concrete changes, but just the idea of change/hope.
(2) I feel the exact same way when I saw how much support Americans were giving Dubya back in 2000. Except now it's happening in my own party.
OK, so there's not much difference between their careers, she's wedded to an idea she wasn't able to put through 15 years ago and the Republicans have plenty of nasty things to say about both of them. Neither has passed landmark legislation. Sure, her failed idea was a good idea, but she couldn't get it passed then, why would I think she can now?
There's not a hell of a lot of difference, as I've been saying. And I've said I'll support her if she's the nominee. I guess the only question left is why you hate Obama so much.
There's one huge difference between the two of them. One of them is an extremely ingelligent, able man who is selling a boring, old line of bullshit. Like, the basest populist bullshit bromides you can imagine. He knows they're bromides, but he sees how much they rally his supporters, how many votes he can get with those bromides, especially considering he's up against nerdy Clinton, and he keeps on selling it, all the way to the nomination. There's no honesty in that, it's very very unappealling.
I have been a fan of Senator Obama's since Boston, but wondered how such a novice to the political scence would do competing with the very skilled political machine. I am a historian by training and this election has taught me a great deal both about Sen. Obama and about elections. First, about Senator Obama: he's smart, he's nimble and he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. In fact, he learns from his experience. Second, in this highly-charged historic election cycle, the voters are watching and learning very quickly. The Democrats are looking for a winner. Things have changed a lot in the world in the last eight years. Senator Obama has seized upon that change; Senator Clinton appears to have missed it. The dynamic which Sen. McCain is attempting to paint between experience and naivete will not serve him well because turned on its head what Sen. McCain is offering us is what Pres. Bush offered us: the Politics of Fear and Endless War. The election will be about whether we want to mortgage America's future in Iraq or at home, whether we want to target our military engagements where they can help us or where they can ensare us in costly unproductive battles. When John McCain's talks about the "transcendental battle of our lifetime," I hope Americans will seriously ask, when weighing all the challenges that lie before us that we measure where we were as a nation we want to be and if this is indeed the case? The future is going to be a very different place, and Americans should ask are we ready to be a competitive player, and if not, what will have to do to basically keep up. Do we have the resources? To win a war, so that we may leave with "honor" and have our place in the world reduced is not honorable, it is foolhardy.
I didn't say Carter was necessarily a bad man or a bad president. I'm talking about what happened in the election of 1980. Watergate was 6 years ago, and americans exchanged a democrat for a rpetty evil Republican. A democrat who couldn't deliver on his promises. Barry seems to be setting himself up for the same exact thing.
You are trying to preach the politics of despair. Every one of them, is a politician and therefore cannot be trusted, but what use is this? Really, what use is it?
Say one accepts your theory that they are all rotten lying politicians, does that do anything about the deficit? How about healthcare, does it give healthcare to sick kids? Education? Security?
And i counter to you, what is use speechifying and repetitions ad nauseam of coming hope and change, without any specifics? What does THAT do for healthcare, education, security? Obama is certainly not someone who is sticking to the issues, or winning on better policy, original ideas, etc.
He promises change, he promises new ideas, but where are they? Where are his new, innovative ideas that will bring about this much-advertised change? Is the change just that he is promising change? That's the oldest line in the book.
The politics of despair are very tempting, particularly to a generation raised on "Greed is good" and everyone one wearing black in order to "Assert their individuality."
How old do you think I am? I'm very likely younger than everyone here.
Not "who will be stronger." Either of our guys can wipe the floor with "4 more years" McCain. And if one more person cites a poll as "Proof" of anything, I'll scream. "Mild indication, with caveats" is the furthest you should go. Of course, in this cycle all the polls have been SO accurate, especially 6 months out. Six months ago, Hillary was up 30 points.
I do wonder how many of Obama's fair-weather friends will stay once Hillary is out of the picture, and they can hop back to the GOP and vote for McCain. Tell you what, the last thing that's keeping me, a lifelong Democrat, from jumping ship is Obama's cowardly approach to health care. Would saying to the young, yes, you'll have to pay something, even though you don't get sick that often mean that those fainting crowds fall silent?
Oh, and another way he won Wisconsin? He outspent Hillary 4 to 1. What political city does he come from? The city with the broad shoulders and the sharp elbows, that's where.
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