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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
It's sad that you feel the need to denigrate Obama supporters in such away. You are, unfortunately, repeating tired talking points which aren't doing anything to help wake up these supposed cult members; instead you are just alienating us. If you want us to stop snorting the magic peace dust, then maybe you should focus on why the canidate you're backing (I won't presume to know) is better than what Obama is offering.
To be honest, aren't most of Obama's policies very similiar to Clinton's policies? And don't they have a comprabable amount of time in elected office?
Oh, i just love it when an Obama supporter says "stop calling us names, and stick the policy/substantive issues." This, coming from supporters of a candidate who talks about everything under the sun except policy/substantive issues. That is rich.
So, please, tell us brainwashed Obamabots why we should be supporting Hillary.
Cuz he's playing you, my friend. Just give it a couple of minutes of thought: he's as much a powerhungry, back-stabbing, cynical, realpolitick politician as Clinton is. Evidence? He's running for president, voluntarily putting himself through one hell of a meatgrinder in his quest for ultimate power. Who but the most powerhungry would do that? Plus, the moment he was elected to the State Senate, he was running for US Senate, and the moment he was fortuitously elected to that venerated institution, he was running for Prez.
This hope-change schtick he's been selling? It's a shtick, to differentiate himself, it's his angle, and he's a very talented salesman. He whispers into your ear exactly what you want to hear, he strokes your ideals the way he knows you like it, moving you with his considerable rhetorical talents. But it's a gimmick.
Don't you think it's dishonest to pretend that you're being totally sincere, to pretend that you're this innocent, sweet, honest outsider (who somehow just fell into his US Senate seat), not really even campaigning at all? And then it turns out he uses a teleprompter for his speeches, and that he's lifted passages from here and there. Doesn't that bother you as to the authenticity of his message?
His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Not Jesus Hussein Christ and certainly not Barry. You can make your point without "calling him out of his name." If you think he's going to be another Carter, fine, but could you please show him some respect, just like you did Carter.
I will also swear (and I can't talk for other Obama supporters) to call Clinton Clinton and show her the respect she deserves as sitting Senator and a former first lady.
Alright?
PS: I think there's a harder core to Obama than Carter. But we're all entitled to our opinion.
http://www.slate.com/id/2178896/
---LeCastor: I don't denigrate HRC supporters or call them stupid, shrill, naive, etc. I see no point in doing that. What I do have a problem with is someone whose support of one candidate enables them to make ridiculous blanket statements about people who support another candidate that are unsupported by fact. I assure you, I'm not sniffing magic peace dust and it's pure speculation on your part to predict that Obama will be another McGovern or Carter. Obama does have real policies and according to a lot of the stuff I've read (Salon, Slate, NYT, the Atlantic, mainly), they're not all that different from HRC's.
Goof Lord, when you write things like "Sometimes I think I'm the only sane person around," how can anyone think you're anything other than a self-righteous snob? And the thing is, I agree with you most of the time! Gah, your pen is poison.
His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Not Jesus Hussein Christ and certainly not Barry. You can make your point without "calling him out of his name."
That's your response to what I wrote? Um, ok....
FYI: He went by Barry his whole life.
http://gawker.com/news/barack-obama/before-they-were-genuinely-famous-barry-obama-230914.php
So, let's hear it stackey, why do you support Obama? Try to keep it short on platitudes and long on concrete facts and things.
The problem is, you're letting fear rule your thinking. You're shouting "wake up people", but wake up to what? Vote for Hillary? McCain? Or is it just a general yell of "we're all doooooomed" which really serves no purpose other than perhaps a cathartic one for you?
I was for Edwards first. I'm left with a choice between Clinton and Obama and in the end they're about the same. Either one holds better hope than McCain.
And even if Obama falls short of what I suggested, much less what you suggested, it still doesn't equal Carter, who himself was a much better President than is generally acknowledged. It doesn't have to end the same way, 30 years separate the Carter presidency from now. We've had a long time to see just how bad Reagan and the Bushs have been. Point it out to people every time they start extolling Reagan's napping ability and propensity for betraying America.
So Laura Bush is a nice lady, everybody likes her. What difference did it make in GWB's disastrous presidency?
Go Michelle, be yourself!
You're both right. Joe Lieberman was Barack Obama's mentor in the Senate. His ASSIGNED mentor. Every freshman senator is automatically matched up with a more senior senator in a "mentoring" program. Barack Obama just got unlucky. It doesn't mean he supports Joe Lieberman's outlook on the world, it means that he drew the short straw in the Senate mentoring matchups.
It is so funny to me that half the people on this board think that Barack Obama is a stealth Republican and the other half shriek that he's a socialist. Fact is, neither are true (that "Most Liberal Senator" survey from a biased publication used a non-representative sample of Senate votes to skew the results; the fact is, Bernie Sanders, an ACTUAL Socialist (by his own declaration) is the most liberal Senator.
Siedecker, you are right that Barack Obama's actual mentor, who Barack CHOSE as a mentor, is Dick Durbin.
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