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Saturday, Nov 7, 2009
The first woman president should be strong, charismatic, and intelligent.
I just don't think he has the total life-experience, political savvy and maturity to handle the incredibly complex job of President.
What about gravitas? No more gravitas? If Clinton's purported "total life-experience, political savvy, and maturity" isn't winning her the Democratic nomination, then how can it be expected to win her the general election? Either voters are looking for other qualities than those this election, or else people don't accept Clinton's self-narrative -- or maybe both.
Do you think Clinton's run a good campaign, the best campaign she could've run? Do you think she's made any mistakes, or has she run a perfect campaign, in your estimation, and has only been sabotaged by circumstance?
With the Presidency, you don't know what's going to be thrown your way, and being able to adapt and thrive marks the true political savvy required to win the day. Clinton's campaign apparently went into it believing their own hype, and were caught flat-footed when things didn't go their way, and by failing to react swiftly enough, undermined the "inevitable" narrative, the "leadership" narrative, and the "experience" narrative. She talked a lot about those things, but hadn't showed them on the campaign trail, and is paying for that inspiration deficit.
It's apparent that the editorial staff at Salon holds a pro-Clinton bias. Let me point one thing out to everyone. Obama has the popular vote so far in this primary. In 2004, Kerry had the popular vote and lost the white house because of the delegate count. In 2000, Gore had the popular vote and lost the white house thanks to the a supreme court ruling. If Obama wins the overall popular vote and the delegate count is so close that the super delegates are "the deciders" in this primary and they go against the will of the majority, it will destroy in my mind the Democratic party for ever.
Maybe the wonks at Salon should get more in touch with what is really happening in America, do less editorializing and more reporting.
It's apparent that the editorial staff at Salon holds a pro-Clinton bias.
Go tell that to all the people stating "It's apparent that the editorial staff at Salon holds a pro-Obama bias."
Maybe we can lock the two groups in a room and no-one can come out until after the primaries are done.
I enjoy Salon's coverage, but I would point that Salon consistently refuses to analyze women's votes when Obama wins. Obama's strength among total women is a predictor of his success. In Wisconsin, he trailed Clinton by three points among women in an mostly white state. Clinton's base of "identity" supporters is shrinking. The Steinem-gambit, the defend-Chelsea gambit, etc etc are not sufficiently inspiring her base to make up for voters alienated by the Clintons' tactics.
I can't find any exit polling for Hawaii, but Obama's victory was so lopsided that it seems unlikely that he didn't win a majority of female caucus-goers.
the President of the United States was chosen by the Electoral College who have the power to undermine the popular vote. Given this dynamic, the "electability" of any candidate, Democrat or Republican, is a secondary issue. The victory will go to the party that can convince, bribe, cajole, coerce or otherwise influence the members of the Electoral College. God Bless America.
The outcome of an election in America has never been decided by a member of the Electoral College going against the vote he or she was supposed to cast based on the popular vote that sent them to the Electoral College.
There are tons of problems with the Electoral College without bringing up unprecedented and unlikely scenarios.
Since 2000, the American people have been on the receiving end of numerous unlikely and unprecendented scenarios.
I live in downtown Madison and even eat in its Indian and other ethnic restaurants, have a PhD, and have never been on a snowmobile. And yet, still voted for Clinton.
What does the insipid Hillary have to offer but the continuation of some sort of perverse Evil American Royalty schtick and the promise of more programs, paid for with higher taxes, and that make men more irrelevant.
Seems like a no brainer as to who to vote for as Dumcraptic contender.
I am still voting Ron Paul, even if I have to scratch his name in in my blood, but that is because I feel he is the only one who can save this country.
that the whole game is rigged, incidentally?
Since 2000, the American people have been on the receiving end of numerous unlikely and unprecendented scenarios.
If Clinton wants to win the nomination and the general, she needs to drop the penny-ante negative attacks on Obama's great speeches. Because she needs to make a great speech herself.
The speech will have to be a humdinger, because it needs to start from a place of humility, move to inclusiveness, and end with a lofty vision of the future that all Americans can share.
The greatest mistake of the Clinton campaign, greater even then its tactical decisions to divide the Democratic electorate, is its decision to bad mouth "a little town called hope." Even in the gentler 90's, voters firmly rejected a candidate that sneered at the "vision thing." After eight years of rudderless cynicism, Americans want to elect someone who will climb to the lookout to chart a new course.
Clinton has to give up the Powerpoint bullet lists. She has to make it clear she represents ALL Americans. Most of all, she has to finally tell us where the hell she wants to lead us.
"She wants to seat delegates from states that she agreed would not be included. She has insulted large blocks of voters by dismissing them are being irrelevant."
You do see the humor in this I hope?
Really grateful to see "some fact" about Obama. I almost forgot that Obama voted for the Chaney Energy Bill. Also, I did not
know Obama's mentor at Senate is Joe Lieberman. That really explains a lot why Obama has so many nice thing to say about the Republican party and Reagen in coded words. I am shaking my heads at the naive college kids. Oh, those Republicans cross-over to mess up Democrat Primary. Hope Governor Dean fix the Democrat political process and get rid of the cross-over influence that made LOYAL Democrat shaking heads. 50 state strategy is a great start, but got blown away by cross-over in red states and not-seating Florida and Michigan. Shaking head.....
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The Maine fight was supposed to be the dress rehearsal for repealing California's Prop. 8 -- but gay marriage lost
Once one obtains Seriousness credentials in the Washington media, they are irrevocable no matter one's conduct.
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