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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Nice,
Going for the whole Camille Paglia trick of "I'm a progressive, but I just loves me some Conservatives." Sure you're a progressive. No, really, I believe you. BTW, are you selling any bridges? I'm in need of one joining Manhattan and Brooklyn.
You're really put off by the message of hope and change so much that you're willing to vote for Mr. Four More Wars, Hated Bush's tax cuts before he started to pander, hated the Christian Right before he started to pander, crazy as a rabid weasel McCain?
Why do you hate America?
idiotic Democrats that lost this election for us by voting for someone they hadn't truly vetted
That's true, that never works. I mean that's why we've just had 8 years of President Gore! Those idiotic Republicans boted for Bush, whom they hadn't truly vetted, and look where he is now! He's selling hot dogs at Texas Stadium last I heard.
I shall not answer your charge on Obama supporters being horrible people, because I have read enough of your own posts to know how hollow that charge rings coming from you.
Thus I will answer your real point.
I value the experience only so far as it demonstrates the ability to make wise choices. Insulting foreign leaders, who you will need on your side if you are to fix America, dispells, to my view, a lot of the mystique of someone having experience.
As does voting for a disasterous war in Iraq.
Obama, might not have the experience that Hillary has, but his experience includes a surprising degree of maturity. For example, when he spoke on immigration and inner city unemployment, I hear a person refusing to take the popular scapegoat.
And his speech against the war in Iraq, made when America's bloodlust was up, has proven to be right on the money.
Now obviously we see the candidates differently, we are both operating off of our own perspectives and our own collection of biases. That is okay because we are adults, and we do not depend on strangers on the internet to validate our views.
We shall see over the next few years, which of us is right and which of us is wrong.
Damn right.
I was an Edwards supporter. By the time my primary rolled around I voted for Obama because Edwards was out. If Clinton manages to win in the fall, I'll cheerily vote for her, no holding my nose over any of the Democratic candidates. What people need to remember is that ANY of the Democratic candidates are better than ANY of the Republican candidates. If what posters like AnaHasWolves are really looking for is an economy that continues down the drain, a weakened America abroad, more military casualties in wars of choice rather than necessity, lack of healthcare, more bailouts because Republicans can't effectively oversee corporation, corruption, spying on Americans and the government telling you what you can and can't do in your bedroom then by all means, vote McCain. He's the choice of failure, the choice of hopelessness, the choice of self-loathing, the choice of despair.
I'll be voting for the future, you go ahead and vote for the past.
The only thing here worth commenting on has to do with the intriguing notion that Barack Obama may be a Trojan horse. This idea seems to have a component of truth in it. I'm not convinced, however, because all the numbers thus far suggest that Obama's support is real. Some might say this support is based in part on Republicans voting for Obama out of displeasure with their nominee but who will, in all likelihood, vote for the Republican nominee in the general election. Has anyone compared the numbers in the closed primaries vs. the open ones? If they are smaller margins then this idea may have some legs. Just how big is this Obmican phenomenon?
Furthermore, could this line of thinking be part of the same rhetoric of fear that Obama preaches against, the same "moving bar" that Michelle Obama talked about the other night? If it is, it only serves to make Obama's case stronger. If it isn't, Democrats ought to figure this out sooner rather than later.
First, I don't believe that Barack Obama is prepared to be an effective President from day one. I just don't think he has the total life-experience, political savvy and maturity to handle the incredibly complex job of President.
This is Dred Scott all over again.
Yes, we can see from the way that Obama has managed his campaign that he does not have a clue. He can organize the field workers, and he has learned to talk well and can write too, but he is not ready to come indoors yet.
And we can see that Hillary's exective skills and strategic planning have served her well, especially in her brilliant plan to have no plan after Super Tuesday, or her failure to notice that the structure of the Texas primary makes a huge delegate win unlikely for her.
Well done, Hillary! Just think what you could do in the White House.
Look folks, Hlllary would have been out of the contest a long time ago had it not been for her shock victory in New Hampshire. She has never been elected to anything but a safe Democratic Party Senate sinecure in New York, where a Republican win would have been a shock. The only big win she has had in this campaign has been in New York.
She does not have Bill's ability to connect with voters, and even Bill would have been beaten in his first general election had the crazy Ross Perot not effectively torpedoed the Republican ship, which would have cruised to easy victory.
Well done, Obama. Welcome to the Big White House. I can't remember the last time we had an African American President... Oh, REALLY?
I've wondered about the Trojan horse thing myself but at this point it doesn't matter. The race is nearly over and Obama will be the nominee. Regardless of whether the GOP and independents helped him over the line the rules allowed them to do it and he won fair and square. Hillary has had a long run in politics and you can't win them all. As for Mr. Obama we should wish him best of luck and say well done. To his supporters such as anonymous, you are clearly winning, a little grace and class would go a long way as you are going to need those same Clinton voters you are hell bent on alienating to win the election. Obama knows this, why don't you unless of course you are also a Trojan horse?
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
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