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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:00 AM

How Obama won Wisconsin

The Illinois senator did well with campus liberals, white men, crossover Republicans and independents, but he made inroads into Clinton's working-class base too.

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  • Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:10 AM

    Thrasymachus

    "Billcap:

    Obama has won ALL of the ten contests since Super Tuesday, by margins ranging from 17 to 82 percentage points. Hillary Clinton is most definitely NOT collecting half the vote, unless you are following Mark Penn in deciding that certain states and demographic segments "don't count.I understand the disappointment that Clintion supporters must feel about their candidate's failure, but this does not excuse, much less justify, rewriting the laws of mathematics."

    It has nothing to do with "not counting"--it has to do with couting.Yes, simple math. Unless you want to argue that there are more people in North Dakota than California. He has been winning by big margins in some mid and small states while Hillary has won by small margins in large states. Guess what--that ends up to not that big a difference in total. There have been roughly 20 million votes cast. The difference between the two candidates is less than a million. That's not including Florida or Michigan (if one does include them and gives all uncommitted to Obama, the difference is less than half a million). In either case, that's a rough split of the vote. As I said, if Obama wins the big states, that will change significantly. If, on the other hand, Hillary wins the big states (Texas, OH, PA) by smaller margins than Obama wins states like Rhode Island, it will still work out to a rough split.

    You've done nothing but prove my point. That too many Obama people are blind to the reality that the party hasn't fully embraced Obama over Hillary, hasn't come close to a "rejection" of Hillary. In fact, those numbers quoted above are much closer when one counts just registered democrats (this is, after all, a race to be the democratic nominee). So again, the "party" is far from "rejecting" Hillary. And if one considers Obama's numbers are further skewed by demographics rather than policy, it's even more clear that this is no wholesale rejection of her--either her method of campaigning or her policies.

    Your sarcastic and smug superiority at the close of your post goes further to making my point about too many Obama supporters

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