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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:00 AM

How Obama won Wisconsin

The Illinois senator did well with campus liberals, white men, crossover Republicans and independents, but he made inroads into Clinton's working-class base too.

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  • Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:10 AM

    @stackey-dackey

    Do you think Carter was a snake oil salesman, too? I always thought he was naive and love dovey;

    Of course he was a snake oil salesman. I'm back to my "wake up, people" feeling. Do you honestly believe that you can become the governor of Georgia and then the president of the united states by being lovey-dovey? Why would a peanut farmer suddenly decide to run for political office? Where did this idea come from, just for fun? Carter was not a shoe-in, he came out of nowhere in the primaries, he had to struggle to win, why would someone do all that, if not for a lust of power? Sigh.

    the Obama you describe in your post is anything but lovey dovey. He's a shrewd politician, calculated, and a little evil. And since it's obviously impossible to bring American's together, what does it matter if Obama doesn't accomplish it?

    Because if he's making huge, ridiculous promises his butt can't cash, he will be a one-termer just like Carter, and the Repugs will be back in power. Is that what you want? Remember what happened last time with that, with Reagan & Bush I?

    Isn't it good that he's actually a Washington insider who is ambitious to be president? Don't you think that will mean he will do whatever it takes to get his policies pushed through?

    See, that's where I think Clinton will be more skilled, in actually being president, making legislation happen, fixing things, running things, doing the grunt work. Making shit happen. He's great at talking, but his record of accomplishments... not so hot. Why is that? Because he's been running for president his whole life, he's been too busy to make any landmark legislation.

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