This letter is associated with the following article:
Letters
Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:00 AM

How Obama won Wisconsin

The Illinois senator did well with campus liberals, white men, crossover Republicans and independents, but he made inroads into Clinton's working-class base too.

Read other letters about this article

  • Wednesday, February 20, 2008 01:22 PM

    @ Person, Czarina, Persia

    Person, I asked you:

    He promises change, he promises new ideas, but where are they? Where are his new, innovative ideas that will bring about this much-advertised change? Is the change just that he is promising change? That's the oldest line in the book.

    And you answered, what exactly?

    Obama said that inner city unemployment predates the current immigration problem, and the real problems behind it need to be adressed.

    Now their policies on illegal immigration are the same, save that Obama supports illegal aliens getting drivers licenses.

    Plus, she managed to raise what in any other campaign season would have been a record amount (The amount is second only to Obama) and run into funding problems. By Super Tuesday.

    I don't want somebody that bad with managing finances managing the finances of America.

    Um, I don't see any new hopeful ideas there, at all.

    @Czarina, I asked you

    So you think, for example, his healthcare plan is more progressive than Hillary's?

    No answer, because you know that the answer is that Hillary's plan is the more progressive one.

    I asked you:

    Which of his ideas do you think is so progressive?

    Which of his ideas is so new and/or hopeful?

    The CBS article is long on speechifying, but where are the ideas? Obama is a dove, Clinton is a hawk, even though Obama said he would bomb Paksitan. Um, ok. Obama will bring in new voters. Fair enough. Obama wants to vanquish lobbyists -- lol. Sorry, that's my only reaction. Where are the goddamn ideas?!

    @ Persia: It was actually 22% according to the last AP poll; AP/Washington Post has it at 33% last month. (Link at my name.) Which is, you know, a tremendously shitty number and right in the toilet next to Bush's. Which should send a signal that the 'old way' of doing things-- governing with 50% + 1-- doesn't cut it any more, but here you are arguing on behalf of Hillary Clinton, who wasn't present for any FISA votes and seems to think the 50% + 1 strategy is brilliant for both the primaries and the general.

    Doesn't cut it anymore? When did it cut it? When was a time when this didn't exist? And, um, what do you think Barack Obama is going to do to change this system? Are we going to give him new powers to appoint congresspeople? is he going to force people to vote in supermajorities into the legislature?

Most Active Letters Threads

533

The crazy, irrational beliefs of Muslims

Tom Friedman explains the real problem: stupid Muslims think the U.S. is about war and aggression.
431

The face of rotted Washington

Evan Bayh demands more debt-financed war - fought by others - while boasting that he's a stern "deficit hawk."
249

Obama's exceedingly familiar justifications for escalation

The "new" approach to Afghanistan touted by White House officials seems quite old
195

Bigotry wins in Switzerland

By voting to ban the construction of minarets, Switzerland apes the most extreme intolerance in the Muslim world
134

Facebook, the mean girls and me

At 34 years old, I finally feel like a popular seventh-grader. How sad is that?

View all »

Letters Help

Currently in Salon