Letters to the Editor
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@ "Taliesan"
Your glibness is surpassed only by your jejeuneness.
By the way, the name is spelled "Taliesin", as the Welsh poet of the 500s spelled his name; "Taliesan" is a bastardization.
Finally, you pooped 353 letters into "Salon" and only received a paltry 8 Editor's Choices? >>tsk<<
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AnaHadWolves
You come on here and you accuse the Obama camp of being horrible nasty people quick on the insult.
And in the very next breath you accuse them of being naive cultists.
When I call you a hypocrit I am not resorting to ad-hominem, I am being perfectly factual.
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Xrandadu Hutman
Another example of Obama telling people "What they would like to hear"
While Hillary was falling over themselves to blame immigrants for stealing American inner city jobs, Obama pointed out that inner city unemployment predates the current immigration "problem."
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@ana
i can think of few better examples of nastiness than THIS comment by ana had wolves:
“Janet Huckabee. I'm sorry; she looks like an ugly man in Wal-Mart drag. The make-up is from Jethro of Little Rock; the hair color is straight out of a box. However, I bet she can bake a delicious possum pie, though! Yum!”
way to focus on the issues. what a cruel, spiteful piece of work *you* are.
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@factcheck1
Wow, you and factcheck2 are like peas in a pod. Ironically named peas...
factcheck1: "If you copy your math homework from another kid in school, you won’t likely pass the test..."
Factcheck1 then continues with a series of rhetorical attacks on Obama that bear no resemblance to reality. Here are the basic arguments:
-- Obama "plagiarized" a phrase for a speech (which came from a friend of his, who let Obama use the phrase with his blessing)
-- Obama didn't accomplish anything in Congress (not true, as any basic "fact check" will turn up hundreds of bills he sponsored or helped create)
factcheck1 writes: "This is why a track record of little accomplishment and borrowing things like speeches and economic plans, energy platforms, and other ideas from Clinton is a problem for Obama."
This is a load of bull. Obama and Clinton both borrowed some of their policy details from John Edwards. Others they came up with on their own. Others they formed while campaigning, as did Kucinich and the rest of the candidates. This whole argument that Clinton is some whiz on the details while others are just play-acting is just another Hillary talking point. Obama has more than proven his ability to hash through the messy details of plans and policies.
Factcheck1: "His plan of unity in Washington hinges on his ability to negotiate the things we democrats want."
And Hillary's plan of unity in Washington hinges on....her ability to not negotiate things democrats want?
factcheck1: "Another thing...You cannot govern by proxy on foreign policy and economy. I keep seeing articles in the paper about Obama’s great advisors and his ability to pick great advisors. This is exactly what George Bush said about his way of governing. It failed."
Well duh, that's because George Bush let a gaggle of corporate and military-industrial interests completely puppet the man from within his pocket. It's also because George Bush was a Grade-A moron who didn't care a whit about human beings. I mean, fer chrissakes, the man chose to wage war on Iraq without even knowing the difference between Sunnis and Shiites!
And by the way, sorry, but if you're going to compare Obama to Bush, it really should be noted that politically Clinton is much closer to Bush than Obama is.
factcheck1: "When you consider who to vote for, please use your head and the lessons we all know from school."
Oh gee, thanks Hugh Beaumont! Er, I mean, factcheck1! Thanks for telling people to vote based on their school lessons. To the same readers you are addressing, I say this: Please vote for the best overall candidate whom YOU have decided has the leadership abilities and governing skills to steer the U.S. on a better course. Don't listen to the manipulative rhetoric of amateur propagandists like factcheck1.
factcheck1: "Would you want to hire an engineer to build you a bridge if the engineer had copied his/her homework from someone else?"
Would you want to hire an engineer to build a bridge if that engineer had granted another engineer the permission to start an unending war in Iraq?
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@Anonymous
Anonymous: "There isn't a paper out there that hasn't fawned all over Obama and his borrowed speeches ranging from a dead president, a beloved felled activist and even his own preacher."
There isn't a paper out there, huh? How about the Wall Street Journal? The Washington Post? The Christian Science Monitor? The Dallas Morning News? The Sacramento Bee? The Phoenix Gazette? The Miami Herald? The Chicago Sun-Times? To name a few. Plenty of papers have endorsed McCain. Plenty of other papers have shown a preference for Hillary. On what do you base your assertion? (I know, you won't bother answering, because you're shielded by your anonymity so you can continue with your hit-and-run, inherently dishonest posts.)
Anonymous: "The Press even call him their Golden Boy."
Really? Which "Press" called him that? Let's hear a citation. What is this collective "Press" that is a monolithic collective that speaks in one voice?
Anonymous: "They've created a myth and messiah like creature."
No, people just like Barack Obama. There's no "myth" about him -- the word myth implies people are claiming something that isn't true. Nobody is claiming anything other than that Obama is a very good candidate who inspires people. So what. As for your "messiah-like" claim, that's your own hyperbole, not anybody else's. The word "messiah" is only being used by his opponents as a way to invalidate his popularity and suggest that the people who like Obama are falling under some weird psychological spell. But really, most Obama supporters like him calmly, for plain, common-sense reasons that have nothing to do with hero-worship crap.
Anonymous: "Pretty scary how easily lead people are by flowery speeches. They treat him like a celebrity and rock star, more hype than substance."
Actually what's TRULY scary is how easily people will turn into hateful little cowardly creeps just because their own favorite candidate isn't winning. Buck up and have some decency. One of the red stars in this thread is for Clinton supporter who makes his/her case for Clinton without having to crap on her opponent's supporters to do so. Go read that and learn from it.
As for Obama's speeches, they're hardly "flowery." They're actually quite direct. That's why people like them.