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All the remaining 2008 contenders -- except Barack Obama -- indulge in an artery-busting blue-collar orgy of fried fish, bratwurst and cheese.
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  • slightlyjaded

    Her main achievement, to my mind was in her first term after 9/11, she secured $21bn in funds to redevelop the WTC site.

    Further, she was instrumental in investigating the health complaints of the rescue crews that saved lives during 9/11.

    My main bone of contention with her as a president is the Family Entertainment Protection Act - which she introduced after Grand Theft Auto, San Andreas (A game where you kill cops, steal cars and beat up prostitutes) had the gall to include a minigame portraying consentual sex in its core progamme.

    The programme had to be altered in order to open up the game.

    Though the bill did not become law in the end, it didn't exactly leave this gamer overly charmed with Hillary's stance on censorship.

  • I'm really worried

    That's right. I'm worried. I'm worried what this constant back biting and sniping between Clinton and Obama supporters is going to mean for the Democratic party. Personally, I'm worried that Clinton, if things don't go well in Ohio and Texas, will try by any means necessary, to seat Michigan and Florida and will succeed. I think that if that happens, the democratic party will split right down the middle. More so than if the superdelegats decide the issue. (This is not an original thought obviously...but I'm not sure who to credit.)

    What I want from the Clinton campaign is less focus on Obama's pecadillos, cultiness, "plagiarism" and more concrete focus on why she's the best canidate without trying to tear down the other guy. And the same goes to Obama, too. We're gonna have to work together after the primary to elect the president, and unless you really think Obama is the debil, I don't see why you would want to give the Republicans fodder for the nomination if he wins.

  • @Anonymous

    Anonymous: "What I want from the Clinton campaign is less focus on Obama's pecadillos, cultiness, "plagiarism" and more concrete focus on why she's the best canidate without trying to tear down the other guy. And the same goes to Obama, too."

    Hear, hear!

  • tuesday

    I'm not sure that we can accept as fact what Michelle Obama might have said at a rally based on what some poster's friend said...

    anyway, Obama spoke at my old college campus in Beloit last night.. I read that there were 4000 people there and they had to leave some people out in the 7 degree fahrenheit weather. This is at a campus of about 1200 students. the town itself probably has about 30,000 people. last time I checked the black population wasn't much above the national rate of 12%. it's a post industrial area with lots of Hillary's constituents, not including the college and Blacks, of course. supposedly Chelsea also spoke earlier in the day to about 150 people.

    so whatever that's worth....

    the fact that anyone can vote in the primary in WI regardless of party affiliation, and that you can register on the spot will greatly favor Obama. whatever the outcome the, Clintonistas will spin it as a "comeback" since she will obviously get more than 35% of the vote. good for you, HRC!!

  • 08:25 AM Anon

    You know what, you are right.

    I think it is time I stopped reacting irritably and started simply trying out this whole "Polite" business. It isn't entirely in my nature, but the same old insults become boring after a while.

    Oh, and if the Editor is reading this, Anon's post deserves a star.

  • What I like about Obama

    So far as I have seen (Always a useful qualifier) he hasn't been terribly keen on scapegoating issues.

    And the scapegoat is a very convenient means of winning support, for example blame illegal immigrants for unemployment, or blame games for kids behaving badly.

    It isn't the choices themselves alone which informs my support for Obama. It is the fact that he seems able to see shades of gray and produce what he thinks of as realistic policies.

    I actually like that he didn't wear that pin, that his wife has only recently become proud of America. I like it because I do not trust people who proclaim their patriotism at the tops of their lungs. America has had a series of those, and they seem to have landed America in a big mess.

    For all of the talk of him overpromising, which I think he is, he has adressed issues rather than simply reaching for the easy escape. And I like that, I respect that.

  • Bowling for votes: Wisconsin's national brand?

    Salon.com’s Edward McClelland reveals how the rest of America views Wisconsin in his post today entitled Bowling for votes in Wisconsin. For better or worse, this is the equivalent of our brand. Does this position us well in the grand scheme of things or not? Before you answer, a few quick notes on Branding 101.

    What is a brand?

    Sum total of all of an audience’s experiences.

    Promise/commitment to produce a specific experience .

    Brand Identity

    What does an audience think of when they hear your name?

    Do different people think the same thing?

    Cheeseheads, let your voice be heard. How would you like to see Wisconsin branded? Visit wispundits.com to comment.

  • Anonymous:

    If the Clintons try to get the Florida and Michigan delegate votes counted, using some horsecrap rationalization about racism, or if Hillary tries to steal Obama's committed delegates, they will only make themselves pariahs within the Democratic party. The party elders will assert themselves at that point. They will step in and put an end to the Clinton maneuverings, by whatever means necessary.

    The Clintons have already made themselves quite unpopular with the rank and file Democrats by their nasty tactics in South Carolina and Hillary's desperate attempts to discredit Obama by whatever means necessary.

    If they try any further behind-the-scenes chicanery, they will really stamp themselves as pariahs for all time.

  • This is a close campaign

    This is something the Super Delegates are going to have to consider.

    What a close election means, is you have to abide by the rules set at the start of the race. To do otherwise is political suicide.

    If the Democrats allow MI and FL to have delegates, it will anger the rest of the USA. It will be seen as unfair, because the rules were agreed upon before the race started, and while the agreement to strip these states of their delegates was unfair in and of itself, it was agreed upon.

    If Obama had won big in both states and was now arguing to include those states, I would be supporting Hillary Clinton. It would actually change my side in this because I would see it as craven of Obama to do that.

    Now, as to arguing how the delegates should vote: There is no rule to say that one can't suggest a particular course of action as being the wisest. Going with the popular will of the Democratic party in a closely fought election strikes me as being the wisest course, because these are the elections where the electorate cares.

    By going with the decision of the electorate in this case; whether you support Hillary or Obama, and whichever one wins the most delegates, the super delegates will assure the Democrats the elections.

    By going against popular will, the super-delegates would guarantee an apathetic or outright angry youth vote. Even if Hillary wins in terms of popular support, Obama's supporters might whinge, they might whine, but they will accept that victory.

    The same is true of Hillary's supporters if Obama wins.

    This is because despite our differences, we are all fairly liberal, and we all believe in fairness. We are too good as people, whether we think Hillary is best, or Obama is best to go against the popular will in an election. We aren't Republicans.

    To overturn the electorate's decision however, will have the opposite effect whichever candidate wins. To overturn the electorate's choice would be fully within the rules, but just because a choice is allowed in the rules, doesn't make that choice correct.

    The Democratic party would instantly lose about a third of its voters - because those voters might be willing to submit to a decision taken democratically, but they will not submit to a party which asks for their input in the primaries, and then ignores them.

    The election must be fair and above board. There must be no doubt as to whether the Democratic party is the Party of America's people. This is the start of the Democratic ascendency. It must not be undermined.