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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Enough already! I think everyone needs a timeout. I've seen more maturity from five year old siblings.
Every time there's an article, both sides complain of bias and complain that the author slants the news one way or another. Walsh's article is pretty much on the mark: Clinton had a big double digit lead, but the race is a dead heat. Then, again, races normally tighten up as election day gets closer.
Clinton has a lot more support from the California Democratic party (as she has with lots of state parties) because she and her husband have spent lots of time over the past decade building those ties. Obama doesn't have these ties because he is a relative new comer. The fact he has a substantial minority of the various state parties backing him is an amazing accomplishment.
Obama's California state supporters are not as multi-racial as Clinton's. However, this does change from state to state. Most of the Obama New Jersey Democratic party leadership supporters are the so-called "People of Color". This includes such important people as the Mayor of Newark and the Mayor of Edison.
I think the best way to classify Obama supporters vs. Clinton supporters is by age. Younger insurgents of the various state Democratic parties tend to support Obama. Clinton supporters are the older, more established party types. For example, the mayors of Newark and Edison were recently elected by pushing out older, established party leaders.
The difference between the two candidates issue wise is minimal. This includes domestic policy, foreign policy, and even in Iraq. It really comes down to personalities. Obama has less baggage, but less experience. Clinton has the experience, but lots of baggage. Both are extremely intelligent and either one will be a big improvement with whomever the GOP nominate. I would be thrilled with either as President.
Remember that whomever is the Democratic nominee will be ridden roughshod over by the Republican machine. When Kerry was nominated, did anyone really think that the Republican party could have (or even dared) berate him on his service to his country? You think that the Republicans won't go after Obama because he's so pure? Do you think the radical right won't come out in force just to vote against Clinton?
We need to support whomever is our nominee. We were lucky to have eight excellent, intelligent, experienced candidates vie for the Democratic nomination. The Republicans had two extreme rightwing anti-immigrant nut jobs, the Romintron 5000, Mayor 9/11, an actor who didn't know what to say without a script, a governor of a small Southern state who doesn't believe in evolution or foreign policy, and a man whom no one in their party can stand.
For the first time in years, the Democrats have a great shot at the White House. We have an excellent shot at controlling both houses of Congress. And, we have the ability to pull the Supreme Court from the extreme right wing views that now dominate it. The Republican party is in absolute shambles and may remain that way for at least the next decade. We will have the ability to shape the future for the next generation.
Please, do not drown in your own bile and feel that you cannot support the Democratic party if your candidate isn't selected. I will proudly support any candidate the Democrats select for their nominee.
Sorry Gary Owen...When the Black voters of South Carolina voted overwhelmingly in disproportion to the rest of the populace, race becomes an issue...And why not?...Why is everyone so afraid to talk about the "reality" of the situation...Black folks are voting for a Black candididate...For some reason if you point out the obvious you're a "racist"...Now is the time for the Black voters to stand up and say if they're actually Democrats or not...Will they vote for Hillary if she wins and if not does this make "them" racist or just sore losers...
Clinton cut-throat and Obama idealism. Let's get started, shall we?
Only in your dreams. Clinton would cut Obama's throat either way, riding piggyback on the excitement he's generated -- she needs his charisma, but he doesn't need her so much. If Obama falls in the nomination fight to the Clinton cadres, the only thing he's got to lose then is his prestige and position as an exciting candidate -- that would be his downfall, taking a back seat to Queen Hillary in a losing candidacy.
And if Obama manages to prevail and Clinton falls, he'd probably have to watch his back with Clinton as VP, for fear of those selfsame cutthroat tactics -- not that she'd accept a VP spot from Obama, anyway; that door only swings one way, in truth. Loyalty expected, but not given. That's the definition of cutthroat -- whatever it takes to win.
What makes Obama exciting is that it's a different approach for Democrats, one that's based in the grassroots, just what the party's needed for some time. I know people aren't used to being actually excited about candidates, being in a position other than besieged, outflanked, and prone against the GOP, but Obama's the real deal.
The GOP are praying to Mammon for a Clinton candidacy; she's the only one who can save them in 2008. That, or Bush declaring martial law or some untimely "domestic emergency."
Well, I suppose this is marginally better than some of the other hit jobs that you've commissioned. But it does surprise me that any Obama supporter would be willing to speak to you at all, given how wantonly you parrot smears of that campaign and candidate, and the striking contrast of the double standards applied. Thanks for sharing- Rupert Murdoch would be proud.
Nice try.
Deaf ears.
"feminist girlfriend appeal" "the Clinton's unite by dividing". No evidence of this, by the way, other than an Obama supporter. Bill Clinton makes one "sour grapes" statement that is more petulant than racist, and that feeds the meme. Obama supporters and the media are determined to make this about race v. gender, so it becomes about race and gender, no matter what the candidates do.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
Salon headlines in your mailbox
