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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
I was at the Obama Hartford rally last night at the Civic Center and even though I was an Obama supporter before the rally, I feel even more strongly about him now: He's inspirational and I'm excited by his candidacy.
I marched on Washington with MLK, got arrested protesting the Vietnam war, and have been involved in politics all my life but I've not seen anything like this before, Obama not only has the right ideas (for me) but he's inspirational.
There were huge numbers of young people in the crowd last night, many voting for the first time today. He pulled them out like no one else could.
My 92 year old mother, who lives in Los Angeles and has been an avid Bill and Hillary Clinton supporter for years was pro Obama before I was. She'll hit you with her cane if you get in her face about Obama.
No matter what happens today or in the next months, Obama has pulled more people into the process than have ever been in it before. His candidacy is historic and makes me very proud.
Don't you think that both Bill and Hillary Clinton would be solidly behind Obama if Hillary weren't running? It sure looks like that to me.
I'm sick of both of these miserable excuses for candidates. I'm also rather disappointed in Salon as well.
I'm sick of Republicans in the White House, so I'm not going to vote for HRC under any circumstances. If she becomes the Dem candidate, it's better if the Republicans win so the Dems won't be blamed for the ensuing debacle.
I'd thought that I could hold my nose and vote for Obama, but he's presenting as a whiny lightweight whose idea of hope is that he hopes he's the next president. He, like HRC, has reduced this to an identity campaign. If there's a third party candidate with a pulse, my vote is taken.
And then there's Salon. All about identity and flash. No substance. Marginalize everybody except the media anointed 2 front runners and treat them like a horse race. If fairness, you DID do an article on Edwards, but that was after he dropped out of the race. I screwed up when I renewed my subscription; I am not supporting a progressive source of analysis. This is pure mainstream garbage. I won't do it again.
Perhaps one week ago this article might have been interesting, but at this point (Super Tuesday itself), shouldn't the pundits and writers take a one day break and sit back and watch like the rest of us?
If the voters screw it up and go for Obama, super delegates can step in to correct the mistake.
It's not just cultlike worship (although there's a little of that); his supporters believe Obama's face has meaning on its own, imagining him as the face of America,
I know you don't like Obama's candidacy sucking the wind out of HR Clinton's coronation, Ms. Walsh, but come on. The Clintonites are the cult -- it's a vituperative cult of celebrity: they're the shrill ones, who think that Clinton's gender has meaning on its own, although nobody looking at HR Clinton would think she's the face of America, certainly not in the 21st century, which is why she had to stage her own ad hoc Rainbow Coalition photo ops, because she's a privileged white woman. The Clintonites are the ones who are obsessing about race and gender, however, not us.
Far from being cultlike, it's more like pragmatism: Obama is simply a better candidate, and no amount of Clintonite hostility is going to change that, is going to make her a more popularly-electable candidate. Clinton still likely has the edge with Democratic Party/DLC insiders and K Street clout, so Obama's still the underdog -- the question is whether the superior candidate will be able to overcome the institutional power Clinton brings to the table. My fingers are crossed that Obama will do well enough to keep the hope alive.
Ace Up Our Sleeves
If the voters screw it up and go for Obama, super delegates can step in to correct the mistake.
-- The Notorious W.E.S.
Case in point about the Cult of Clinton(tm) -- an argument against the popular vote in favor of party dons and insiders staging an electoral coup? How the worm has turned. Democratic, it ain't. If a candidate is actually popular with voters, there must be something wrong with them. As Einstein put it, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
>"I was at the Oakland rally with Ted Kennedy. I am Asian. There were quite a few of us there. There were also quite a few Latinos there (did you happen to miss the "Latinos for Obama""
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This is what is called anecdotal evidence. Let us say that Obama has 30% of the Asian vote. That means you are one of the 30%. That also means the other 70% are somewhere else.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Joan writes a column and identifies the race and gender of the candidates, and their supporters. She looks at the surface. She ignores Dr. King's advice.
A lot of salon letter writers and democratic pundits do the same.
Please never lecture me again about race and equality.
Thanks. I just wanted to start my morning by irritating a member of the Obama cult of the naive. You were there for me.
I have no doubt that when the dust settles from Super Tuesday the Clintons will emerge on top, more states, more delegates. But Obama will have closed the gap considerably, and the contest will go on. I think its entirely possible for Obama to overtake the Clintons after today. But I agree with Slackie, "Clinton still likely has the edge with Democratic Party/DLC insiders and K Street clout", and that will probably be enough to edge out Obama in the end.
What ever happens Hillary Clinton loses. Either she'll lose the nomination to a surging Obama, or she'll lose the general election to John McCain.
I will say, the moment the Clinton's secure the nomination any sence of excitement will drain out of this election. The young voters, the independants, the disenfranchised will fall away. It will be a dreary campaign played out for Clinton cultists and conservative war mongers.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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