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<<From Joan Walsh
Thanks for your thoughts, Sean. I do participate more than editors of other large sites. I always have. Are you saying you think that's beneath me? I have never thought so. I think it's part of what makes Salon...Salon.>>
Actually, I don't think that's his point at all. It seemed to me he was amused by what could be taken as your tone, which seemed particularly exasperated.
That said, I disagree with Sean's larger point, which is that Clinton (either of them) have acted in a racist manner. Even the infamous (and in my view, moderately foolish, given the propensity of the media to make shit up, and assign motives they can't possibly know) comment by Clinton about SC I don't think was racist.
We have two very good democratic candidates. I wish more people could see that, and quit making out as evil the one they don't support, or worse, making out as saintly the one they do support. Why do I think the latter is worse? Because you're sure to be deeply disillusioned when/if they actually have the chance to practice what they preach.
Though I don't think this will happen, if Clinton wins the nomination, she'd be very smart to offer, and Obama would be very smart to accept the VP spot. He'd be a particularly good VP (and look at all the VP powers he'd have now, thanks to Cheney, heh heh, since the VP now seems to have more power than the presidency!). 8 years of a Clinton/Obama presidency could very well end both racial and gender bias as any potent force. While I think Obama would be an OK president now, I think in 8 years he could be an extremely good president, one of the best ever. He'd have lots of practical experience, and it'd be wonderful to think we have 16 years ahead of us of a more rational presidency.
I do think Clinton would be the best choice for president now, better now than 8 years from now if my scenario were reversed. I have no illusions she's perfect, and I'm sure there will be plenty I vehemently disagree with her on as a president, but i think she's at the prime of her competency, and she knows her stuff. Like I said, I wouldn't always agree with her conclusions, but i don't have to, overall I am convinced she's what's needed to start the reversal of the nightmarish previous 8 years, moreso than Obama. In oversimplified terms, Clinton's practicality lays the groundwork for Obama's soaring changes (and please, no morons telling me that this means I think Obama is not practical or some other crap I've not stated).
So as a democrat, one can decide: is Obama going to degrade as a candidate in 8 years, or get better? I think he'll get better, in fact, be at his absolute best. I'd rather have him as president when he's at his absolute best.
--Ron