Letters to the Editor
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disturbing
I am most disturbed by Obama's lack of class in respecting the people who voted for Hillary. I guess negative campaigning is alive and well for one of the Democratic candidates.
Shame on you, Barack, for you lack of grace.
FACT: Hillary got more votes than any other candidate, Republican or Democrat.
Votes are a funny thing. You like to not count them if they are for the other guy.
Of course, we know that if it had been Obama, it would have been a big deal for the Hillary hating media.
As for the Democrats, they are stupid and suicidal as usual. Let me see, Michigan and Florida, these are states they don't need to take back the White House. Let us do something that will piss off these voters.
Wake up, America.
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The Problem is the Timing
Clinton has shwon herself to be completely unethical and unfit for the Democratic nomination with her actions in Nevada, Michigan, and now Florida.
The rules against seating the MI and FL delegates were initiated nearly a year ago. Hillary Clinton agreed to abide by that decision at the time. Now that she's won a victory due to her failure to follow the spirit as well as the letter of those agreed upon rules, she wants the rules she previously agreed to changed.
Similarly, she was fine with the at-large caucus arrangement in NV when it was set up. But, when it looked like she might lose, she sued to block the arrangement she had previously agreed to.
What's especially galling is she is now claiming that the NV, MI and FL decisions are anti-democratic, and are disenfranchising millions of people.
If that is true, why wasn't she outraged when the rules were agreed to, and she assumed she had a cakewalk to the nomination?
Hillary Clinton is a scummy, run-of-the-mill politician who will say anything to get elected. She is ethically unfit for the Democratic nomination.
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Classic Clinton..the rules apply to everybody else.
The Michigan and Florida primaries show Hillary Clinton's lack of character in high relief. All the major candidates agreed not to campaign in Fl or Mi--yet somehow Hillary managed to "win" both states and claim credit for them. In my home state of Michigan, all the other major candidates had their names removed from the ballot--in accordance with their agreement, Hillary did not. She "won" that primary, although over a third of the democrats voting loathe her so much they came out in the cold to actually vote for uncommitted. So now comes florida, and after a devastating defeat in SC, she needs the press and so claims that FL does matter after all. Hillary (and Bill) just do not believe the rules apply to them. Of course as long as her mindless adherents let her get away with this kind of behavior it will continue. As a liberal Democrat I will never vote for another Clinton only to find myself betrayed by their overweening need for power--no matter how sordid or dishonest the means they have to use to achieve that power. She may lie, cheat and steal to win this nomination--but she will never get my vote. She is a fraud, and a transparent one at that. As a feminist and liberal it pains me to say it, but I will vote for John mcCain before I would turn the country over the the clintons again, and I bet I'm not alone in that sentiment.
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Did Hillary Clinton really win in Florida?
Yes.
Otherwise, I'd like to know how extending a middle finger to Florida and Michigan is a winning strategy in November.
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Did she, or didn't she?
It depends on what the meaning of win is.
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more lies about Hillary
"she sued to block the arrangement she had previously agreed to."
This is a lie. Where is the proof behind this? This is a case of distorting the facts to confirm that you are right in hating Hillary. In the end, it is based on false facts.
What Hillary actually did was go and campaign and win those votes.
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Yes, She Won Florida and Michigan Fair and Square
She won Michigan and Florida -- though the DNC is punishing those states -- and I don't see how the Dems are going to win in the GE without them. But aside from that she did not campaign in either of those states, and Michigan had an Uncommitted column so challengers had a voice and still, they didn't win. The fact Clinton won 55% in Michigan should MEAN something.
She has technically won four primaries/caucuses now: New Hampshire, Nevada, Michigan, and Florida, and the dems had better start getting behind her -- no more UnHillary votes to Obama. Dems have a huge problem. Count the number of Republicans who voted in "unenergized primaries/caucuses' and compare that to the number of Dems who showed up to vote in Democratic primaries.
Look at the upcoming republican ticket: McCain/Romney. Stop underestimating how formidable that is.
The message of `change' -- starting from scratch -- from Obama is not going to work. You want people who have a track record of making Washington work. That'd be HRC -- and somebody. (And yes we all know HRC was not the president before, however that won't matter in the end, and she has been bipartisan during her TWO TERMS as Senator.)
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Speaking as a Florida Voter
Speaking as a Florida voter, I have been and continue to be extremely annoyed at my party's leadership at both state and national levels because they decided my vote doesn't count.
Let me tell you how this all played down here, as I haven't heard the national media explain it at all.
First, we had a major state property tax referendum on the ballot. It was a simple, "would you like to pay less in property tax next year by about a few hundred dollars (actual amount varies by locale)" that had lots of popular support but needed 60 percent to pass. So Floridians turned out.
Second, we have closed primaries, so you can only vote in the primary for the party you joined when you registered to vote. So if anyone switched parties to vote, they had to plan way in advance.
Third, while there was no campaigning here (save possibly the Obama ads on cable news channels), the state Democratic party did push turnout, and I, at least, was bombarded with emails in the days, weeks, and months leading up to the primary, telling me I should vote and strongly implying that my vote could matter.
So when I tuned in to see the returns on MSNBC and saw Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann snickering about how Hillary was having a victory party for nothing, I was offended. Last time I checked, it's a victory when an election is held and you win. Granted, our delegates may not be seated, but winning a majority on a 3-person race in a big and crucial state has got to count for something, even if only morale.
Also, just to add here, I am a Hillary supporter, though I very much like Obama and Edwards too. So I would have wanted our delegates seated no matter which candidate we chose. I'll admit that as a southerner, Obama snubbing Hillary on the floor hit me as very immature and unbecoming, (and kind of fit with the "likable enough" comment), but I can let it go.
I'll enthusiastically support whichever of the 3 frontrunners wins the nomination, but at the same time, since I and about 1.7 a million other Democrats in Florida made our preferences clearly known, I think that should matter.