Could you give a link to the video you saw of the "incident" between Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Obama? I wasn't aware there was one. Thanks.

"When Senator Clinton was campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, she said that states like Michigan and Florida that won't award delegates, 'don't count for anything.'"

Well, I've sure tried my best on google, but the fact is I can't find that alleged quotation's actual source. The only attribution in scores of entries is...wait for it...the campaign spokesman for the Obama campaign, David Plouffe. It was repeated today by Obama spokesman Burton. But when, and where, and in what context if at all, did Mrs. Clinton say this? Or did she? Those who use it might do well to prove it is legitimate.

It's certainly possible it was said in some context or other. But I would sure love to find out when and where.

Although the candidates themselves did not actually campaign there, they all had "shadow" organizations of operative who got the word out. There were flyers and Obama actually had television ads. It is rather disingenuous for him to say it wouldn't count when he actually behaved as if it would. Florida voters didn't turn out in droves just to vote on Florida candidates and local issues. They knew their votes could eventually count.

I don't agree with you on the "snub"--did you see the vid? No way that's a snub. Especially since he had just rec'd the Kennedy endorsement--he's the one that would have been feeling generous. Unless he was avoiding her for that reason? Honestly, I don't think it was mean...

BUT, I agree with you COMPLETELY on the stupidity of the drawn-out primaries. All on the same day. Period.

Yeah saw Clinton on Fox. She was talking to Chris Wallace and he asked about the handshake and whether Oprahbama snubbed her.

She said, "Well, I extended a hand of friendship....I will continue trying."

BLAM

I laughed my ass off.

Only when the dimensions of her South Carolina setback were clear did Clinton begin portraying the Florida vote as ... well ... the 2000 Florida vote. The former first lady suddenly had a new cause -- justice for Florida. She pledged on primary night to do everything in her power to guarantee that "Florida's Democratic delegates [are] seated."

You only refer to Clinton as "the former first lady"? She's a two term Senator. You're disgusting, Shapiro.

Enough of this crap, Salon.

It's off topic, but it happened during one of her appearances on cable as she was doing her "victory" rounds. I think it was Hannity & Colmes, but it could have been MSNBC. Someone showed her the Obama "snub" picture and asked if she was snubbed. I thought for all the world that she was going to take the high road--the question was rather drawn out, so I was smiling inwardly and anticipating a similar reaction from Hil, kind of like, "for goodness sakes, this was nothing at all. Please don't make something out of nothing." I was genuinely shocked when she gave a coy smile, a fake hurt hesitation, and made some statement that seemed to confirm that indeed she'd felt snubbed. Having seen all four photos of the "snub," it seems obvious to me that she was not, or at the very least that it is indeterminable whether she was or not. I had NOT seen the photos before her response, so given her insinuation, I went online expecting to find something egregious. It is simply not at all clear that she was--and even being there she could not know for sure--and I think he clearly was distracted, not snubbing her at all.

Look at all my previous postings. I have not been one of those polarized by Clinton--I have always said I would vote for her if Obama is not the candidate, and I admire her debate performances, her smarts, etc. But this particular response to this particular question just brought me to some tipping point. I turned to my husband and said, "Unless I find some obvious, unequivocal snub by Obama, I will not vote for that woman." I can't explain why this was so revolting to me. It was EXACTLY what others have been saying all along about her playing the race card and everything else, that I've been resistant to believing. It's like she is deliberately playing a psychological game with Obama/the press/Americans. I simply can't stand disingenuousness, and I hate that she chose to bring this petty bickering to FOX NEWS. (Hell, I can't stand that she patronizes FOX NEWS). I can't possibly vote for someone who is this cunning.

Thank you. I am a mathphobe, and you explained it so well that even I can understand it. This certainly explains why Edwards is hanging in there. I guess he could write his ticket in the next Democratic administration. I think he would make a fine Attorney General. By the way, he's my guy. I guess this would be an appropriate place to post this link:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/29/155546/479

Only Edwards is the true progressive populist. But if you are really rich, then go ahead and vote for Obama or Clinton.

Thank you. I am a mathphobe, and you explained it so well that even I can understand it. This certainly explains why Edwards is hanging in there. I guess he could write his ticket in the next Democratic administration. I think he would make a fine Attorney General. By the way, he's my guy. I guess this would be an appropriate place to post this link:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/29/155546/479

Only Edwards is the true progressive populist. But if you are really rich, then go ahead and vote for Obama or Clinton.

I hope Obama knows what he's doing, but it looks like he just let Hillary steal the election. It was never about race, it was just about winning. All the handwringing last week about race and Billary, etc. should have come down heavy on Hillary's change of heart last week.