Letters to the Editor
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I hope your plaintive cry is heard!
Dear Anonymous Can we pay attention to the facts???
It is getting rather Kafka-eque! The Obama supporters that think that Hillary did something wrong by thanking the 860,000-ish people who voted for her. I think I am too reality-based because I don't know what could possibly be wrong with that. Of course she would like the delegates counted, but even if they aren't she can still join her voters for a little joy in the moment, can't she?
I don't know why Obama can't bring himself to thank the 560,000-ish voters who voted for him!
When the general election comes around doesn't he want all of those voters to vote for the Democratic nominee? BECAUSE I SURE DO!
I want to thank all of the Democrats in Florida who voted. Keep the faith, we'll see you in November!
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A syllogism
without a clear answer is what the Florida primary delegate issue poses. The problem is that Clinton vowed NOT to campaign in Florida and then decided TO campaign in Florida, and is now stating that she will see that those delegates are counted.
Obama kept his promise.
She gets credit for deception and dishonesty, more spin and dissembling.
Trust me, if the DNC tries to reverse its decision and include the Florida vote in the delegate vote, you will see a large scale abandonment of the Democratic Party.
I, for one, will never cast another vote for a Democrat.
ANd, I am not alone.
My husband and I have come to this conclusion independent of any discussion with one another, given that it is so draconian.
I happen to know that we are not the only folks who think this way.
It will be, "Hello, another party." Or, good-bye to voting, because , you see, I will have been broken by then
We view it a bit like moving off of the grid, or being judgment proof.
This is where Ralph Nader always acts as the party spoiler, and yep, he's right on time again.
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Florida Democratic Committee Says Hillary is Virtually Certain Nominee
It struck my last night as I saw Hillary proclaiming that she would make sure that Florida's delegates were seated at the convention, and as the spector of a convention fight loomed, that the answer was for Florida to schedule caucuses in April or May. If the nomination was still up for grabs, they could claim the spotlight once again as Obama and Clinton campaigned in the State. If not, the nominee would sweep the caucuses and no harm done. In either case it was a way to provide legitimacy to the Florida delegation. (The same plan works for Michigan).
I called the Florida Dem Committee and was connected to the "Director's Office" when I explained my suggestion, the person left the phone and returned moments later to say, "We believe that Hillary is virtually certain to be the nominee, and since she has pledged to seat our delegation, we aren't making any other plans.
A week before Super Tuesday and the suppossedly neutral Democratic Committee Chairman's office says its all a done deal. Does this surprise/shock/infuriate you? It does me.
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Facts
Hillary did NOT campaign in Florida. Obama, on the other hand, ran commercials in Florida--and still lost.
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Photo
Look at the Photo she has such large eyes that there directed at Kennedy.....what such BS...she play the gender card for votes but will it pay off for her?
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The Florida Vote
Hillary won the early voters and Obama won the late voter so who won... 0-0
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About AKA's game thought:
"The media is running a game on us. Always."
I've asked before, but it may be time to revisit some questions. What if we all stopped listening to talking heads, television, podcasts, radio and reading material about politics for a bit and only researched pure facts?
Is it that we don't have the time, we unintentionally get caught up in the dramatic or that we feel so emotional we can't reason? Is this blood sport entertaining or does it make us people anxious and create subsections in our wounded society? Some discussions can actually be educational, as a person with strong opinions (weakly held) will tell you.
Maybe we don't trust the sources of those facts?
Just trying to understand why, instead of research and clarity on the issues, some folks limit their political interactions to simple insults and overzealous rants.
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1.7 millions Reasons Florida Counts and Matters
Both before and in the wake of the Florida primary pundits and politicos stated that the Florida primary did not matter. John Kerry, who notably lost Florida in 2004, referred to the election process as illegitimate. In fact, his exact words were "It is not a legitimate race..."
Thank you Senator Kerry for providing the talking point for Camp Obama, but here is the reality: 1.7 million Democrats cast their votes in Florida Tuesday night--more than all of the previous states combined. In absolute and proportional terms, this was a legitimate race.
Consider:
* No candidate openly ran in Florida. There was activity from both Camp Obama and Camp Clinton. Fundraising was always permitted and who gives money blindly?
* 1.7 million votes were cast--more than any Democratic primary in Florida's history--just like in the earlier states
* Hillary won big among women (54% to 31%), just like in earlier states
* Obama won big among Blacks (79-72-73%) depending on age bracket), just like in earlier states
* Hillary fared poorly among Blacks (17-26-25%), just like in earlier states
* Obama fared poorly among non-Blacks (average in the 24% range), just like in earlier states
* Obama won the college towns of Gainesville (University of Florida) and Tallahassee (Florida State University), just like in earlier states
* Obama won the young person's vote (49% to 39% among 18-24 yr olds), just like in earlier states
* Hillary won the older voter's bloc (44% to 35% among 45-59 and 58% to 26% for those 60 and over), just like in earlier states
* Hillary won the Latino vote, just like in earlier states
* The final results had Hillary and Obama competing for the silver and gold, with Edwards finishing with the bronze, just like in earlier states (except Iowa where Edwards won the silver).
How then does this vote not count? Statistically the results are valid.
More importantly, how is this vote not reflective and predictive of the primary season?