Letters to the Editor
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What would Obama do?
Could people stop with the pathetic moral indignation. Please, Obama is a politician. Axelrod, Obama's brain has got you all believing this is some kind of second coming of JFK. The press loving a great marketer, is playing along. Face it Obama is a great product line. Hip, cool and just that a product line. You have all transferred all your spiritual needs into him. You put into him whatever you want to see.
This is politics. Obama took with "race" advantage Hillary knew she would win in Florida.
Obama will take millions in pack money in California. Obama the agent of change had to get all the old geezer uncles to back him up, yet when Bill talks for Hillary you all scream: unfair and you twist everything he says. These same old geezers lost the elections from 2000 to now, how did they "get it" all of a sudden. Now the country is ready for a real democratic agenda and they sold it up the creek with the unity shtick.
Obama is not ready to be president. He was packaged as a life story. He has no credentials. He will be stomped, if he wins the General, then watch for a one term. You truly believe it's a whole bunch of little people giving money to Obama? Read the NY Times article about the packaging. Read Harpers about the money and influencewww.harpers.org/archive/2006/11/0081275
Read some articles and pop you political cherry. Read beyond the news cycle, go read the Sun Times articles about him. Stop falling into the spin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?ref=politics
Read about his relationship with Hillary.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama
And then for all the so called Progressives, read some articles from the left press about Obama and Wallmart. And the faux poplulism.
http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2007-10/31street.cfm
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=13635
I don't want to hear in four years how dissolusioned you all are and how hurt. The information is out there, don't just go for the Axelrod spin.
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They ALL want to win.
So Rebecalouise's 21-year-old son thinks Clinton's drive to win means her presidency will be just like Bush's. Wow, talk about confusing means and ends! But guess what? Barack Obama really, really wants to win, too. And the Republicans really, really want the Democratic nominee to lose. Support for Clinton and Obama comes mostly from people who believe their candidate would make the best president... but it also comes from Republicans who believe Clinton or Obama would be the easier candidate to beat in the general election.
Never, ever forget that there are vast policy differences between the Republican party (as it has become in recent years) and the Democratic party. As one small example, a Democrat in the White House will not appoint Supreme Court Justices like Roberts and Alito. Any Democrat who sits home in November, or pouts and votes for the Republican (because that'll show 'em to reject my choice!) is, as the saying goes, cutting off their nose to spite their face. And the country will continue its slide into hatred and repression.
And please, no complaining that Hillary Clinton won because she had "better name recognition." Anyone conscious enough to find their way to a polling place has heard plenty about Obama by now, and Clinton's press coverage has hardly been fawning. Stop implying that anyone who voted for her is either ignorant or has somehow been fooled.
Again: Vote for your preferred Democratic candidate now. Get out and vote Democratic in November!
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@Shan890 and others
Sweet Jesus, I didn't KNOW that Florida had closed primaries. I specifically asked someone I trust about that beforehand, and he said they were open. So we made a mistake.
How do you take an innocent, albeit mistaken, observation that some of the voters might have crossed over and therefore skewed the election, and make it into an anti-Hilary diatribe? I'm pretty measured about the candidates.
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Hillary baggage
If Hillary is successful in seating Michigan and Florida delegates at the convention, it will reinforce my perception of her as a "win-at-any-cost" politician. The sad part of this is that the Democrats have a candidate in Obama that can cut across party lines. I wasn't sure of that until I met a young man (late 20s) recently who had been a staunch Republican but Bush had transformed him into an independent. He says he would vote for Obama but definitely won't vote for Clinton--would either sit the election out or vote for McCain if he's the nominee. I wonder how many other former Republicans are like this.
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DEMOCRATS did not move the FL primary up-- REPUBLICANS did!
I don't know if anyone's pointed that out yet-- our Republican controlled legislature moved our primary up, to the dismay of Democrats, so that once again, Florida's Democratic votes would not count. The Florida party heads have begged and pleaded the DNC to not allow this to happen, to no avail. It's Katherine Harris all over again.
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Hey look guys!
That Salon.com, they are so thoughtful! They've provided you with a new image for your dart boards!
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@ Anonymous 05:01 AM
That deafening silence you referred to is called sleeping. I believe I am allowed to do that. Anyway, KcM didn't offer photos.
Hehe. Why should I care if Obama supporters and Clinton supporters tear each other apart? I'm an Edwards supporter.
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No she didn't win, anyone who says different is being dishonest.
Hillary's name being on the ballot at all was the result of a bad faith political calculation, just in case things started to go bad for her (which they did). How can anyone seriously look at Florida as a win for Hillary when no one campaigned in the state and the other candidates kept their names off the ballot? People in Florida didn't necessarily want Hillary, they wanted to be heard and so they voted for the only name they could vote for in an effort to make some sort of impression and punish the other candidates who played by the rules when Hillary wouldn't. The win didn't mean anything and the Clinton campaign's mock victory party was a cynical and fundamentally dishonest attempt to make it look like Hillary was the victor in an actual contest. And one final word on the Clinton pledge to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates; changing the rules so they favor you after the game is done is cheating, and if that doesn't give you pause then there's something wrong with you.