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He is attacking Barack Obama with the same playbook he used to go after Republican targets like Newt Gingrich. Are the Clintons stuck in reverse?
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  • Slackie Nails It, As Always

    The sooner the Democratic Party ditches the DLC folks, the DINOs and Blue Dogs, the better. I feel like the Obama candidacy versus the Clintons reflects those two approaches going toe-to-toe for the future of the Democratic Party: the door-to-door volunteers/grassroots/netroots against the party-powerful but publicly-disconnected political insiders.

    The future of the Democratic Party isn't with the grasstops, DINO insiders -- that's the Clintonian past. It's not with the DLC or the Blue Dogs -- or more accurately, if those folks win, the Democratic Party stops being the Democratic Party I've supported all my life, and simply becomes the Republicratic Party, and we're supposed to act like we don't know the difference -- give me a new New Deal; don't give me a Raw Deal and tell me it's new.

    The GOP are on the wrong side of every issue, when you look at where people's hearts and heads are -- that's a mandate, that's a silent majority, and it's there for the taking. But the DLC types don't see it as that -- they see the public as an enemy to be reckoned with, managed and manipulated, versus who you want on your side in a fight. I'll take an energized, 50-state real-life Democratic Party over a demoralized, defensive, grasstops DINO Party, any day.

    -- Slackie Onassis

    Friday, January 25, 2008 07:36 AM

    I believe Edwards is the true post-DLC future of the party, but Obama is certainly light-years closer to the grass roots than Hillary.

    Even 2006 wasn't enough to kill the DLC. Looks like we're going to have to get medieval on their asses - hanging, disembowelment, chopped into pieces and scattered to the four corners of the nation, burned and covered in lime, buried under tons of granite engraved with incantations against reincarnation ....

  • @Tired of the Clintons

    You are so right! Bubba is looking rather bulbous, and those fat, bright neckties aren't helping!

    Please go home, Cankels (she who drips venom as she speaks) and BulBous Bubba!

  • I disagree with Ben

    He says the press collectively moans and goes on to say it's because of guilt and that the Clintons have outfoxed them.

    No.

    They groan over the ongoing 'it's all about me' Bill Clinton, just like many democrats. They are also groaning because after almost 20 years of the Clintons, you pretty much can write the stories in your sleep. Does anyone honestly believe Bill has mended his ways. Honestly? So, a bored Bill in the White House will be even more anxious to get out with some little lovely to past his time. You can almost predict it like you can that the clock will strike 12.

    The nostalgia addicts are the only ones who are excited over more of the Clintons. And the republicans, who are just itching for a go at them again. 20 years of oppo research ready to be used and thrown to the public. How do you honestly think that will go? The shady deals, the women, the dirty tricks, ect. All waiting to be given the light of day in the general election.

    For those who deride those who support Obama, you may wish you were more mature. If the clintons get their nomination they will need those Obama supporters. The riff the Clintons have cause will not be repaired and many Obama supporters will not feel too inclined to help when the Clintons are down in polls because indies won't support them and they cannot get the crossovers. Or when another Clinton scandal erupts - as it is surely to do before November.

  • Bill has driven me into Obama's arms

    He is attacking Barack Obama with the same playbook he used to go after Republican targets like Newt Gingrich.

    What a joke. Bill Clinton didn't go after the Republicans. He sold them the potheads and they bonded with cozy photo ops.

    Together, Clinton and his right wing buddies tripled the national arrest rate for potheads.

    Wasn't that supposed to lead the country to paradise, by the way?

    We should be at least three times closer to paradise by now.

  • I fail to see the point of this article

    Perhaps it's just me.

  • Good luck with that flag-burning amendment, Hillary.

    Maybe when you become president you'll get your wish and it'll finally pass. Oh, and good luck with that whole torture thing too. I know you were the only democrat to come out and take a strong stance by saying ...well... what did you say about torture? Come to think of it, have you taken a position on anything? I mean besides liking both diamonds and pearls. Oh and the Yankees and the Mets because, well, they're both so good!

    Yeah. Good luck with all of that.

    I'm voting McCain.

  • Bosnia?

    Yeah, what a disaster. With actual coalition cooperation and support, the US helped end genocide, and dismantle a Frankenstein monster from the Cold War. Oh, yeah, and put the mastermind of what could have been WWIII on trial in the Hague.

    All without destroying the US economy or killing thousands of US troops, and ending the mass-murder in the Balkans. (Unlike the war in Iraq, where 100,000 Iraqis died *after* US involvement began).

    Of course, "Support the Troops" wasn't such a muzzle then as it is now. Plenty of Republican congressmen denounced Clinton's use of military force, claimed this would stretch the army too thin, and would weaken us as a Superpower. (And the said all this "with troops in the field!" Can you imagine?)

    Perfect? No. But Just. And a far cry from Iraq 2003-2008 and beyond.

  • Bill and Hillary

    Walter Shapiro writes:

    "...As someone who has been covering the Clintons since the 1992 campaign and as a reporter who naively dreamed of never again having to type those three fateful words -- "the Clinton marriage" ..."

    Poor, poor Walter! Forgive me for not giving a damn about his dream!

    Politics is a game of winner and losers. Both sides are equally armed; though the press appears to have joined Obama's campaign recently; but that's just my perception. I blow hot and cold on both Clinton and Obama. However, I don't think that 'we' should expect either side to play nice during a hotly contested primary season. In fact, I would have little respect for either candidate if they didn't defend themselves.

    Meanwhile, the press is up to their usual tricks portraying even innocuous disagreements as if they amounted to a slugfest. The press only cares about the 'game,' never the issues.