I looked at my own state NC and saw blue. I started laughing. The rest of the article is garbage. If you think NC would go for Hillary you need to cut back on the shrooms, man. A third party can only let me say this again

ONLY

Mean a GOP win. there are enough social conservatives in the Democratic party who will split the ticket. Like right here in the Bible Belt with our nominally Dem governor who makes Arnold Schwartzenegger look like Edmund Muskie.

The video does indeed show Salon asking Goeas what percentage of Republican primary voters would *not* vote for a *pro-life* candidate, obtaining an answer of 10-20%.

But this story is about likely defections from the GOP in the event of a *pro-choice* nominee, Giuliani.

No real Christian would support war, organized crime, hatred and fascism. There are a lot of devil worshipers who call themselves Christian, but that doesn't mean that you should call them Christian, because they aren't.

Tell, me, how many votes did Nader get?

Oh yeah, they don't count third party votes.

Hell, they don't even count Democratic votes in some parts.

Meanwhile let's all ignore the two human beings that are running for president because the lizard folk already have decided which lizard will rule and you don't want to let them know that you paid attention to the two human beings who are running.

Lizard folk are psychopaths, not space aliens or deros, but they might as well be.

A vote for Kang is a vote for Kodos!

What choice do you have?

The question is who the white evangelicals would hate more: Rudy or Hillary? Hillary Hatred will likely get out the GOP vote in a big way, which might lead them to hold their nose and vote for Giuliani "on principle" (what principle that is, exactly, is unclear, perhaps even to them -- pure misogyny, I suppose, or else irrational hatred of Bill Clinton).

It's going to be kind of weird -- Clinton runs a Republicratic campaign that will, nonetheless, fail to win over conservatives in the GOP, no matter what she does. And Giuliani runs a campaign that doesn't kiss the sandals of the Religious Right enough for their liking.

Which competing hatred will carry the election day, I wonder? Somehow, I think Hillary Hatred will win out over Giulianophobia.

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"I looked at my own state NC and saw blue. I started laughing. The rest of the article is garbage. If you think NC would go for Hillary you need to cut back on the shrooms, man."

Agreed. I saw my state of Tennessee and saw blue too. If you haven't been keeping up with the elections, Tennessee went bigtime for George W. Bush BOTH times and is very big on supporting the War on Terror.

NO WAY they will go for Hillary...just no way.

Re: "How the Christian right could defeat Rudy -- and make Hillary president"

This will never happen. The Radical-Rightwing of American politics, whether James Dobson or Grover Norquist-based, are so filled with hate that they will never, ever take any action that would have even the slightest risk of assisting Hillary Clinton of being president. The Radical Right would vote for Vladimir Putin for president before they would risk a "President Clinton".

All of the talk otherwise is just to wring promises from Rudy that he will hand over his policies to their cause, just the way George H. W. Bush did to get the Vice-Presidential nod in 1980.

But the politicial reporters will continue to talk about these "threats" as though they are real because questioning comments from the political right would require two things of the mainstream media reporters they have not shown in years: The capacity for independent thought and a spine.

In 2000: 2,883,105

Is copy and paste what I said yesterday. The very idea that H. Clinton stands a chance in 2008 is absurd. That the most right wing elements of our society would consicously allow it to happen is just ridiculous.

Richard Land basically suggested that he, and presumably others, would be unable to vote for Giulliani under any circumstance. I am willing to bet that as those words came out of his mouth, his mind was marking the statement with a mental asterik noting the one circumstance that would trigger his unwavering support for Rudy. That is, of course, the nomination of Hillary Clinton. No other realistic scenario has the potential to so immediately galvanize all elements of the modern Republican party and a very healthy dose of independents into near hero worship of whoever emerges from the sad lot of GOP contenders. As much as I try to resist looking at polling numbers with anything other than deep skepticism, I can't help but be distressed by what appears to be a Clinton nomination slouching toward 2008. We are watching a train wreck in excruciatingly slow motion. If Clinton is the Democratic nominee for 2008, game over. Whoever gets the GOP nomination might as well start putting together his transition team while she makes her acceptance speech at the convention. The scariest part for me is that the Republican nominee will have absolutely no reason to do anything resembling a move toward the center during the general election. Whoever that is, Rudy, Mitt, Ted Nugent, could run on a platform of invading Iran (and maybe Russia), mandatory minimum carbon emissions, prison for advocates of choice, guns in schools, martial law, and abolition of Congress in favor of a president for life. The Chris Matthews of the world will hail that platform as the true expression of American hopes and dreams as Rudy/Mitt/Ted/whoever walks into the White hOuse on a landslide that leaves us dreaming of Mondale.

To: GOP Base

From: Hillary Clinton

Dear Sir or Madam,

BBWWWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Watching this schism is just shear delight. Karl Rove's greatest nightmare is about to come to fruition...it's like watching Charlton Heston getting hosed down in Planet of the Apes..."IT'S A MAD-HOUSE!!!" Hell, Charlton Heston is probably screaming that right now anyway...

Good times...