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Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:00 AM

How Hillary could tank

From hubby Bill's uncharted role to the Karl Rove factor to her scattered hawkish votes, the top 10 reasons why Clinton could take a fatal dive in the '08 race.

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Thursday, October 18, 2007 06:11 AM

Hillary and You

Hillary would sink like a rock in water if the American people would read about her philosophy and history on politics.She is a socialist from the European system and if elected you will find that our freedoms of choice will decline fastly under her administration.She is not what this country needs as a leader.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 01:57 PM

How Hillary could tank

"How Hillary could tank" reads more like Mr. Shapiro's hopes and dreams, a very short laundry list of possibilities out of a universe of potential problems. Why these 10 any more than "the sky may fall" or "GWB may grow a brain" and make the Republicans the most popular party ever? Then there could be the rapture and the 144,000 or whatever taken up to be with all the Islamic martyrs who have proceeded them to paradise by blowing themselves up.

Undoubtedly there will be more "reasons".

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:05 PM

Hillary Got It Wrong

We're being encouraged to think that the Iraq war resolution was a tough call. It wasn't. House Democrats got it right, and even in the Senate, many Democrats got it right, too. But Hillary, like other presidential contenders Dodd, Biden, Kerry and Edwards, was afraid that if the war went smoothly, she'd be denounced as a coward. This action shows she puts her personal career over the good of the nation.

We look to political leaders for political leadership. That's what the system is designed to do. Instead we have government by opinion-makers, and the politicians more or less follow along. Democracy simply doesn't work when politicians are too concerned with their own careers to stand up to big media interests.

We saw how Hillary voted for the war after she gave brilliant speeches denouncing it. That's not political leadership! The Hillary presidency would be four years of double-talk. Frankly, I'd like to see her tank - she'd have nothing to lose if she comes out smoking. Then we'd actually see the Hillary we're told exists beneath the bland exterior.

Edwards, with nothing to lose because he's so low in the polls, is running a populist campaign. I'd find him attractive if he had not put his personal career ahead of the national interest. Sorry, guys. If you were too afraid of offending the right wing, today's the day you pay for offending the rest of us.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:51 AM

The vote for war

While I agree that everybody shouldn't have trusted Bush, at the time there was still some residual respect for the office of the presidency, and even a lot of democrats weren't willing to believe that Bush was the vile monster he turned out to be. They took the seemingly reasonable belief that an American president would not put troops in harms way unless absolutely necessary. I had friends that felt the same way, and they were all moderate to liberal, they just refused to believe Bush, or any president would put his fellow Americans in a meatgrinder unless he had done everything he could to avoid it.

I believed differently, I never trusted Bush, I was always terrified that a know nothing boob like him could really hold the power of life and death over anyone, but that's why I don't hold the vote against her, many people just couldn't wrap their minds around what kind of creature was occupying the oval office.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 09:51 AM

I do hope

the 'fascist' nose dives.

Ron Paul is our last, best hope. He will probably unfortunately be taken down by the one world order elites like Hillary who seek to enrich themselves by enslaving the whole of the planet.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 09:31 AM

Other Reasons

Hillary's only real job, other than her undistinguished seven years in the Senate, has been as a partner in a criminal enterprise where for years she neither saw nor heard any evil.

Mark Penn and Dick Morris

The 22nd Amendment. George HW Bush didn't return to the White House when George W was elected. Who's Vladimir Putin going to want to talk to when he comes to visit?

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 06:37 AM

BillHillary[Bill & Hillary and Bill's track record of campaigning for Democrats

If my memory serves me right Bill has a dismal record of success when campaigning for other Democratic candidates as he did in 1994,96,98 and the Republicans had continued success maintaining their majorities, with the exception of the Senate in 2000. His campaigning for Hillary does not guarantee benefits despite his charisma. Rove wants Hillary to be the candidate and that's a bad omen.

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 01:12 AM

The Vote for the Iraq War

Hillary's explanation of her vote for the Iraq war doesn't ring true. There was no significant question of what Bush intended to do after he got Congress to approve. In the 2-3 days leading up to her vote, Hillary talked as though she were planning to vote against the resolution. Then she voted for it. She ducked away from angry Democrats who demanded an explanation. In fact, as I recall, the police came to escort protesters out of her office.

That ducking away from meeting her constituents is so like her. She is not a person of the people. A true Democrat would have faced down the opposition on the issue. But not the ever-so-timid Hillary. The Iran vote is another example of how a craven politician acts.

I'll never vote for Hillary. Her presidency would be one disappointment after another. No, thank you.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 09:28 PM

Why win when we can lose again ?

I forgot how allergic we are are to winning. Hillary is not a leftist Democrat (as I and my spouse are) and she is not a genuine, earnest, what-you-see-is-what-you-get kind of person. I like Edwards, but his numbers are in the toilet - so when he loses the Democratic nomination, I'll vote for Hillary.

Anybody who's so "demoralized" by a Hillary candidacy they'd rather stay home than go vote for her because she's not their dream candidate deserves the Giuliani administration - and if you think there's no difference between a Republican and Hillary, I'd like to paraphrase the Guardian's headline from Nov. 2004:

"How can so many Americans be _so_ dumb ?"

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 08:51 PM

"The extent of HIllary hatred"

I scanned back through the letters but could not find the poster who brought up that at this point it is not known what the extent of Hillary hatred is. In Iowa and New Hampshire, you can walk in and register or change party right at the caucus or polling place. Why would someone who really cannot stand the Clintons bother voting for Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney rather than STOP HER NOW!

I've already changed my party registration from Independent to Democrat to vote against her here in New Jersey. I'm going to get registration forms for my husband and my daughter to become Democrats, too. They don't like Hillary Clinton but I'll be the driving force in making sure they vote in the primary, for Obama or whoever can defeat Clinton.

My husband and I pay over $12,000/year in local property taxes and I don't think we've ever voted on a school budget. We don't know the issues. My mother used to get out in snowstorms to vote on school budgets and she always voted "NO" and she paid less than $2,000/year and had a partial exemption for age and income. Having an opinion that you're against something is by far the stronger motivation to vote. I voted against Bush twice; I never voted "for" Gore or Kerry.

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