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Salon watches another GOP debate so you don't have to: Fox News men get plucky! Dems take heat for Larry Craig! McCain surges at Romney! And much more.
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  • Form and Content

    I've just got to say that this is absolutely the only appropriate way to cover this garbage. Hats off to you.

  • Cold Fish!

    Cold fish is often used to describe frigid women who don't like sex, and that certain is a good metaphor for how Republican voters must feel about their field of candidates.

    None of the candidates at the Fox Noise debate gave anyone much joy or inspiration at all.

    Having one of them as president would be like sleeping with a cold fish for 4 years.

    Hillary Clinton is a lot more arousing then any of the weak, vacillating, tired looking, Republican fools displayed by Fox Noise, and I am sure she would be a lot more fun to sleep (platonically) with than any of them would be (even if it was just to paint toenails and talk shit about the Neo-cons).

    Who wants a cold fish when you can have an ambitious live-wire over for a pajama party?

  • OK, IOW...

    it looks like I was way ahead of the game by watching "Rescue Me," anyway.

  • "Yes, I would certainly waterboard"

    That's engraved on the Lincoln Memorial isn't it? It's wonderful when the candidates get presidential.

  • Tortured logic

    So if an American soldier -- or tourist, or business executive -- is waterboarded overseas, Tancredo says that they're not being tortured? Because I'd say that they were being tortured. Someone really needs to ask him about this. "Tancredo says waterboarding Americans would not be torture" would be a striking headline.

  • thanks for doing a dirty job

    since i like to be informed,but don't relly want to punish myself in my free time,thanks for watching so we don't have to.other than Paul,these guys are beyond clueless...

  • re: the 51st state

    "85 minutes. After another break, Hume proposes a role-play for all the candidates. Iran, he says, is on the verge of developing nuclear weapons. The United Nations won't act. Israel is under threat. Inspectors have pulled out. And Iranian meddling in Iraq has worsened. What do you do?"

    Must there be a question about an existentialist threat to Israel in every debate? And just because it likes to play coy about its own stockpiles, why must we all pretend that Israel doesn't always have enough Nukes to defend itself?

    Does anybody else think that maybe Hume knows something about an imminent attack on Iran by Bush 43 and is just easing us all into it?

  • I keep searching for the metaphor, too...

    ...but it just won't come. What is the fish?!? Could it be the...wait, maybe the...or that other...

    Oh, here's one - it's the dead body of the morality parade that claimed the GOP back in the early '80s. The party that once claimed (rightly or wrongly) the moral high ground just proposed eight candidates - the best it could muster from within its ranks - who all (with the exception of Mr. "Income Tax Is Unconstitutional" Ron Paul) have expressed undying support for:

    * a war which the US Citizenry were led into through fraud

    * a xenophobic racism towards latinos and arabs (brown people, apparently because they want another group to hang a nice epithet on)

    * the sacrifice of the 4th amendment so they can torture brown people

    * and so much more!

    Wow. And to think I used to vote Republican, back in the day. How the mighty have fallen.

    T

  • Good debate recap

    Waterboarding isn't torture. Haven't I seen woodblock prints dating back to the Inquisition that tell otherwise?

    Short of martial law, no Republican has a chance in 2008. They need to keep marginalizing themselves (and the entire Republican party) by continuing in this vein.

    My hope is that it will be such a social faux pas to be identified as a Republican in the very near future that involvement in same will be as shameful to them as being gay/bisexual is to Larry Craig.

    All over America, formerly stalwart Republicans will be explaining how they never really 'bought into' all this crap but were hijacked in some way, but we won't soon forget those who are so boisterously heralding a return to the middle ages.

    Enjoy.

  • LOL

    Awesome write up.

    And it validates my conspiracy theory. I'm convinced that McCain and Guiliani have a deal - if Guiliani gets nominated, then McCain gets to be his number two. McCain's sole purpose at this point is to indirectly help Guiliani by taking down Romney (not a particularly difficult task). Notice that McCain and Guiliani always cast stones at Romney and never at each other. Also note that when the GOP establishment teamed up to keep McCain off the ballot in the NY primary in 2000, Guiliani bucked the establishment and supported McCain. My prediction: if Guiliani's lead becomes less than commanding, McCain drops out and endorses Guiliani.

  • Description way more fun.

    To date I have to admit that my experience with the debates has been through the summaries here in Salon and snipets on the Web. Way more pleasant that watching these alleged debates.

  • Were McCain and Romney arguing over definition or style?

    At first, the argument over the use of "apparently" seemed to be one of definition, where Romney used it to mean "obviously" and McCain took it to mean "seemingly." Though perhaps McCain just took issue with Romney using adverbs which should be avoided for reasons of style.

  • Here's where the fish come in

    "All over America, formerly stalwart Republicans will be explaining how they never really 'bought into' all this crap but were hijacked in some way, but we won't soon forget those who are so boisterously heralding a return to the middle ages."

    According to Mike Huckabee, they won't be able to. In dressing down Ron Paul, who claimed, correctly, that American foreign policy was hijacked by the Neocons, Huckabee said "...we are one nation. We can't be divided. We have to be one nation, under God. That means if we make a mistake, we make it as a single country: The United States of America, not the divided states of America."

    So there you have it: they're stuck, held fast by the lies told by their previous generation of leaders, that they so eagerly went along with. It's only we dirty divisives who have the freedom to act responsibly. In order to uphold national honor, Huck and the others have no choice but to throw live fish after dead, until the ice cracks under the weight of the bodies.

    CNN's "The Ticker" says Huckabee received "loud cheers" for this indefensible crud. YOU broke it, buddy, so YOU bought it. Leave the half of the country who knew it was a bad idea from the beginning, and said so, out of this.