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What Koppelman failed to mention is that Giuliani paid a token amount for the Yankee rings $16,000 when they are worth over $200,000.
If you lie (or is it lay?) down with dogs you get fleas. Rudy Guliani and the Yankees are so symbolic of our current culture. Money, corruption and sound bites.
system and post.
the letters and article before responding. Me included.
timbuktom's first sentence was a little broad, but goes on talking about certain "middle-American ding-dongs"...who "believe they are cool to choose Giuliani versus Romney or McCain" which does not represent an attack on all midwesterners, just Republican midwesterners with "their mullets and printed T-shirts and wrinkled pants and giant shoes." Now do we really want to misread and dis this letter as "One person attacks the entire population of the Midwest..." ? Not me! Its funny! And limited to a subset of Republicans who may very well exist, for all I know.
And, Garry Owen was, as I read it, defending Clinton for not exploiting the site, not criticizing her, kweberlit.
And the anonymous blah blah blah letter was sarcasm, natural1. And its informative, to naive me, to know that there really are people, somewhere out there in America, who believe that Rudy's going to games was a public service. Thanks gck4061, maybe in 1942, but not so much today, just my opinion.
In all, except for thrasher's rant (excuse me, mr just my opinion's rant), and the guy who prefers the trains on time to America, most of the current letters on this article seem to qualify as 2-3 or better. But please read the letter you are responding to or they are 6s and 7s.
You are quick to condemn and imply that these actions were immoral. However, I do believe him showing up at the games had a beneficial effect on all the people that the city will rebuild and return to normal. Why could you not at least address this in the bias article?
...then the terrorists have already won.
Check out the look on Joe Torre's and on Giuliani's faces in the photo accompanying the story. Giuliani looks like he's about to wet himself with excitement, and Joe Torre is like, oh, great, this guy again.
Also, can we cut the crap about how Giuliani brought the city back from the brink? Giuliani hired an extremely effective police commissioner, I'll give him that much -- then he forced him out when he was getting the credit he deserved for bringing down crime rates. As for the economy, two words: Bill Clinton. Giuliani, like mayors across the country, benefited from the longest economic expansion in modern history. And New York got an extra boost from the booming stock market in the 1990s.
Look at it this way. The Yankees won four World Series on Rudy's watch. Why not give him credit for that too? The fact is, regarding both the Yankees' and the city's success, Giuliani was in the right place at the right time.
His record on terrorism, meanwhile, was an unqualified disaster, including, among other things, insisting that the city's emergency services center be placed in the WTC -- the only complex that had already been bombed -- against the advice of security experts. Oh, and he appointed his pimp/chauffer Bernie Kerik as police commissioner, and then recommended him as Director of Homeland Security, despite knowing that the guy was mobbed up to the gills. And let's not forget how both he and Bernie used their post-9/11 accommodations as adulterous lovenests.
As for Midwestern guy who claimed that they aren't rubes for falling for Rudy, since we're the ones who elected him: Yes, we're guilty as charged for putting him into office twice. Maybe we can be forgiven for the first time, since Dinkins was a horrendous mayor and even Zippy the Pinhead might have looked good by comparison. His re-election is down to us, though.
Still, we had had grown to hate him before 9/11 -- his approval ratings were such that people were gathering with torches and pitchforks. But anyone who supports him now that the facts are out there -- and more are being uncovered constantly -- is truly a rube.
Which is not only a retarded thing to say, it's required by the Salon Editorial Staff.
...are some LWs who have thus far responded. What small problems our politicians have in comparison the serious mental illnesses of these, their constituents.
Each new article brings a flood of noise and babble until I am at a loss to try and filter through the clutter. The forums here at Salon are in decay and may need their own "fascist" editor to weed out the irrelevant, asinine and in some cases deranged commentary.
What is our future if 90% of the country is lost in the video/computer world and many of the rest are an example of lost ethics, incoherent thoughts and sniveling paranoia? One person attacks the entire population of the Midwest, one blames whitey, one blames the SF "libruls", another drools and babbles.
I apologize to the most of you who still retain your faculties. Good luck to you and try to stay free from the bedlam.
Perhaps if we had a rating system whereby we rated one another's letters.
If it were not that I fear for my country, it would be a privilege to see so much confusion.
analysis in this article.
extra time at the 9/11 rescue site qualify a politician to be president? After one or two inspirational visits, get the hell out of the way. More than that is just self promotion-and the article shows how Rudy turned that into $millions for him and his minions. Now he's trying to turn it into being president. To me, in the midwest, thats a sign of low charactor and untrustworthiness, to put it mildly and politely.
